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To: kabar; Elsie
[To Elsie]: Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791...I believe in our Constitution and the right of people to exercise their right of the free exercise of religion. I don't know what religion you are nor do I care. Your obsessive hatred of the LDS is not what this country is all about. I will reiterate that I view the LDS as a force for good in this world.

Kabar, could you possibly stay "on the level" here instead of engaging in personal religious attacks vs. Elsie?

Why is it you hypocritically defend Mormon religious expression, but not Elsie's religious expression? Why is one sanctioned by you -- and the First Amendment -- but apparently Elsie's religious comments are to be shut up as accused-by-you "obsessive hatred?"

Do you always go around and judge and psycho-analyze the inward motivations of complete strangers?

Why can't we do what you do -- and claim that your religious attacks upon Elsie are based upon your obsessive hatred of Elsie or his religious views? Would that be a fair conclusion for us to draw -- when we don't know much about you?

Do you realize that some people have consistently posted online concerns about the homosexual agenda?
Do you reallize some of them have loved ones who are homosexuals?
Does it = if somebody consistently speaks out vs. the homosexual agenda that they automatically have an "obsessive hatred" vs. homosexuals? (In case, you couldn't discern the answer from the possible liberal education you've had, the answer to that Q is "no")
Why then do you engage in similar liberal tactics of slander?
Can we not distinguish loving the person -- be it the homosexual or loved ones like my Lds relatives -- and the ideological or theological or worldviews they embrace?

Do we have to have kum-bah-yah sessions ordered by you for all minority religious views?
Do you make the online circuit and fend off all critiques vs. Scientology, or Hare Krishna, or radical jihadist Islam? If not, Why not? Are those religious expressions entitled to your same Amendment-based arguments of defense?
If not, why have you singled out Mormonism as the base of your defense?

Have you attended public schools & a public college that has taught you this post-modernist liberal multi-culturalism? (That all beliefs are equal and deserve some kind of equal treatment as "truth"...EXCEPT, OF COURSE, those religious views that happen to critique some of those views as falsehoods?)

That's why you have refuted yourself in your own post. We don't know whether to believe your keyboard promotion of the First Amendment, and religious tolerance -- or your verbal-condemnation practice of disrespecting Elsie's practice of the First Amendment and Elsie's practice of religious ideation expression.

So ANSWER: If you preach tolerance, why are you so intolerant of Elsie?

If tolerance is the bottom line, then you should be practicing tolerance toward Elsie's religious views and exercise of the First Amendment.

But you don't.

That makes you a certified, genuine dual-faced religious hypocrite...And of all the people Jesus roundly & soundly condemned most...'twas religious hypocrites.

105 posted on 04/30/2012 10:07:53 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian
Kabar, could you possibly stay "on the level" here instead of engaging in personal religious attacks vs. Elsie?

I'm being ATTACKED?

I'll have to pay more attention!

108 posted on 04/30/2012 1:11:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
I'm being ATTACKED?

Yup; you're right.

109 posted on 04/30/2012 1:12:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
Kabar, could you possibly stay "on the level" here instead of engaging in personal religious attacks vs. Elsie?

Personal? Explain. I am not attacking his/her religion or the Mormon religion. I don't view LDS as evil or a cult. I think you need to review what the subject of this thread is, i.e., the claim made by that idiot Maher that, "Romney Only Gives to Mormons - 'His Cult'; 'That's Not a Charity." Besides being factually wrong, Maher smears a religious group that does good works around the globe. Some of the remarks made on this thread about the Church of the LDS go beyond the pale. I consider that to be religious bigotry, which is prohibited on FR.

110 posted on 04/30/2012 2:14:38 PM PDT by kabar
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