[philman_36]

You're arguing like a 12-year-old who's just discovered how clever he (thinks he) is.
Then that puts you at what...a 6 year old, thumb sucking level who will shortly be calling for his Mommy?

You said 8 USC only applied to someone who was an alien first.
And? You haven't shown that it doesn't.
Did I call the child an alien or the parents?

That is, the people who are citizens at birth.
So how does that not make the law apply only to aliens?
They can't be citizens until they're born right? Is rain a cloud or is rain only rain after it falls?
Or are you saying that the section under discussion doesn't apply to children who are born to aliens?

As it is, I think the reply you're looking for is "I misspoke." Or maybe just "Oops."
I surely know how to say both of those and I have no need to.

[Tublecane]

“’That is, the people who are citizens at birth.’

‘So how does that not make the law apply only to aliens?
They can’t be citizens until they’re born right?’”

Are you putting us on? That’s what the previous poster said: they’re “citizens at birth.” The law applies to them when they are born. At long last, sir, what the hell are you talking about?

[Ha Ha Thats Very Logical]

This’ll be my final shot at this. I think the other poster is right, that you’re only sticking with this because you don’t see a way out.

You said the law applied only to aliens.

The law itself says it applies to people who are citizens at birth.

Therefore, you are arguing that people who are citizens at birth are also, at least at some point, aliens.

I have asked you what that point is.

You have answered only with rhetorical questions.

I conclude, therefore, that you don’t actually have an answer.