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Stephens: Anyone But Condi
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 30, 2012, 7:24 p.m. ET | BRET STEPHENS

Posted on 05/02/2012 6:34:48 AM PDT by IbJensen

Edited on 05/02/2012 6:38:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Did you loathe and detest the Bush administration? If so, you'd probably say its ideas were horrible and their execution worse. Did you not loathe and detest the Bush administration? In that case, you might say its ideas were pretty good—only the execution often left something to be desired.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: condi; condirice; pickanother; poorchoiceforvup; rice; sos
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To: IbJensen

She was not so great an SoS, either.

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If Romney is elected, he needs to do what GW Bush failed to do — clean out all the hold-overs from previous administrations.

And, he needs to bring in new blood — not old hacks from previous administrations.

That is part of the problem in Washington — too many old hacks and hold-overs who won’t leave.


21 posted on 05/02/2012 7:32:15 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: IbJensen

It’s broken record season, so here goes. Like or dislike Condi, she brings nothing to the ticket that helps Romney. If anything, she will trigger resentment from plantation blacks. The fact that she swooned over Obama won’t mean anything to them. Even though she is the epitome of a smart, hardworking, talented, successful female, Condi won’t do much to attract the women’s vote. Last, but not least, not by a long shot, is that Condi’s politics are something of an unknown, except she is flexible enough to get a chill up her leg when Obama won, and that is way too flexible for me. Romney doesn’t care about her politics, but he knows political correctness won’t help him. Romney’s people know he has a conservative problem. In terms of ethnic demographics, his best chance to turn things is by winning the Catholic, Hispanic voters the Democrats are crapping on.


22 posted on 05/02/2012 7:34:54 AM PDT by pallis
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To: IbJensen

Condi Rice?

Haven’t we had enough incompetent, affirmative action people at the highest levels of the federal government, placed there solely because of their skin color and/or their personal plumbing?

People like Madeleine Albright, Condi Rice, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius and Eric Holder have largely been responsible for turning the USA into a laughing stock on the international stage and gradually moving us toward a national version of Detroit.

It’s time to stop the racist/sexist insanity and select people who have demonstrated the ability to perform the job.


23 posted on 05/02/2012 7:43:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: IbJensen

I excerpted the WSJ image you posted. The FR software is brutal. If you have any more questions, please ask us directly.


24 posted on 05/02/2012 7:48:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; IbJensen; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA

You like her? Well she’s never married so go ask her.

She is maybe the worst running mate Romney could pick. I seriously doubt he will but she’s the worst one that I could imagine even being possibly considered.

She’s pro-choice, pro-shamnesty, AND has has strong Bush stink (you can’t think of her without thinking of W). If you have Bush stink you better damn well be a decent conservative.

With Romney’s history of flip flopping on abortion he needs a pro-life running mate and Bush stink as strong as hers is a baaaad idea. That means no Condi, no Jeb. No way.


25 posted on 05/02/2012 8:00:34 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: bigbob

>>...screw this author and his revisionist dreams.<<

It was a good, accurate, article. The VP choice might well be President someday, and could certainly have an advantage in 8 years. Better it not be Rice, given her history of waffling on conservative principles. What the author said, needed saying.


26 posted on 05/02/2012 8:12:31 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: IbJensen

If, okay when, it comes down to it, I’m not sure if I am going to vote for Mitt. Adding Rice to the ticket would make that decision for me. Just like with Palin, only the other way.


27 posted on 05/02/2012 8:14:40 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: IbJensen
The question is MOOT!

Condi Rice has never run for elected office and she's not going
to start now. Makes great headline fodder though.

28 posted on 05/02/2012 8:21:51 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Impy; All

“Anyone But Condi”

I couldn’t agree more. Your reasoning says it all.


29 posted on 05/02/2012 8:39:25 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The stench of Earth Pimp-age is permeating over the internet...)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Anyone But Commies”

We know ABC does not stand for that!


30 posted on 05/02/2012 8:43:00 AM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: Gil4

lol, yeah, but why not use it to put out the commie fire?


31 posted on 05/02/2012 8:54:23 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: IbJensen
Did Condi vote for Obamah?
32 posted on 05/02/2012 8:54:29 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; IbJensen; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; Impy; ...
>> I’m not sure if I am going to vote for Mitt. Adding Rice to the ticket would make that decision for me. Just like with Palin, only the other way. <<

Ditto for me. If that's the GOP ticket, I'm voting for Virgil Goode. (not like my vote matters anyway)

33 posted on 05/02/2012 10:43:42 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: BillyBoy

It’s not going to be Condi Rice; Romney actually want to win the presidency.


34 posted on 05/02/2012 10:51:20 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; IbJensen; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; Impy; ...
>> A mid-April CNN poll finds that former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has unmatched name recognition and a favorable rating of 80% among GOP voters. She's also the person Republicans would most like to see on the ticket <<

80% of Republicans have a FAVORABLE view of Rice after her awful record as SOS and her subsequent support of Obama? Which "Republicans" did they poll, these guys?


35 posted on 05/02/2012 10:51:29 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Iron Munro; All
The only racism/sexism I see is from you and your ilk trolling any FR mention of Condi Rice with bald faced lies (esp. specious claims about 2008) and personal vitriol about her and her record.

She was and is objectively well qualified for the jobs held, whether you liked what the W's administration "accomplished" in foreign policy or not.

Why is there so seldom any effort to list grievances?

Curiously you left Colin Powell, unabashed endorser of Obama, and SoS longer than Condi, off of your list. You must think he was brilliant!

36 posted on 05/02/2012 11:19:15 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: IbJensen
She's pro-abortion (bad), pro-2nd Amendment (good), and unknown on other domestic issues. She was a decent NSA and mediocre sec of state, although better than Powell and his lackeys who caused the whole Joe Wilson stuff in the first place.

I'd rather have her run for California rep, governor, or senate.

37 posted on 05/02/2012 11:27:11 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: IbJensen
Romney does need to distance himself from W when it comes to the ticket.

Condi would be a major asset to a future GOP administration but VP is a political job; she is not a politician and has no interest in that arena. It offers her nothing but grief.

I think you grossly under estimate her contribution to the post-9/11 successes of W's administration. It's not like anyone could halt North Korea's nuclear ambitions or resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

It doesn't seem the case for you, but I see too much of that on FR now, generally rooted in misogyny or blatant racism. It's vile and despicable. It's against the rules but such posters persist.

38 posted on 05/02/2012 11:27:37 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: newzjunkey
She [Condi]was and is objectively well qualified for the jobs held, whether you liked what the W's administration "accomplished" in foreign policy or not.

Name one major accomplishment during her tenure as secretary of state.

Forcing a cease fire in the 2006 Israel/lebanon conflict to save Hezbollah and allow them to retrench and rearm doesn't count.


39 posted on 05/02/2012 12:20:53 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: newzjunkey
Curiously you left Colin Powell, unabashed endorser of Obama, and SoS longer than Condi, off of your list. You must think he was brilliant!

No, I just forgot to add him. Thanks for the reminder.

He stands right out there with the worst of the worse.

If it wasn't for affirmative action he would have spent his Army career running the night shift at a chow hall.


40 posted on 05/02/2012 12:25:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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