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1 posted on 05/02/2012 7:50:49 AM PDT by Strategy
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could we just torch ALL irans oil wells so they lose the only thing they have to offer?


55 posted on 05/02/2012 9:37:26 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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NO WAR FOR OIL!

56 posted on 05/02/2012 9:38:54 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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Define “win”.

We still haven’t “Won” Iraq. Problem is we don’t want to fight like WWII.

We firebombed civilian cities and turned areas into smoking rubble. We broke the will of the people long before we broke their armies.


57 posted on 05/02/2012 9:39:08 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Based on recent past experience about 10+ years is a reasonable estimate before we would pull out.
If we looked to WWII, who knows. A couple of months. The DOD has never won a war.


59 posted on 05/02/2012 9:44:10 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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Seems to me that total victory and peace can be achieved in 30 minutes or less (or your bomb is free). Or whatever the flight time from an SSBN to their most inland city would be.


64 posted on 05/02/2012 10:32:22 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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The first battle of Manasses pretty
much killed the “over in three weeks” meme.


65 posted on 05/02/2012 10:40:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism is not a party slogan, but a mindset guided by core values and walking the walk.)
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We’ve seen this movie already.

McArthur swore the Chinese Army would stay put if the US continued to push the Norks back against the Chinese border.

They didn’t.

If we invade Iran, the Russians will too. Even if they don’t feel they have to.


66 posted on 05/02/2012 10:44:26 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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I can't imagine any true Pentagon bureaucrat bragging that we would have a victory over Iran in 3 weeks. They have never made a statement like that before, even in situations where everyone knew that the US forces would overwhelm the opposition. Remember how “bloody” the Iraq wars were supposed to be? Remember the expectations that we were going to have to accept 10,000 or 15,000 casualties or perhaps even more? This is the Obama Administration making the statement, yet again in a very amateur and potentially dangerous way.
74 posted on 05/02/2012 1:54:12 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Note that victory is not given a clear definition. I presume that they mean simply making sure that their military is torn down enough so that they could not attempt to make and successfully utilize nukes against anyone. To even repeat the Iraq 2003 invasion, well, I fail to see how that would take 3 weeks. Just for starters, we would be facing a much larger nation that would be much more united and cohesive if they were attacked. The goal should be a combination of regime change along with any necessary strikes against the military, but without planning a military invasion. Let’s not fool ourselves, the days of launching full scale invasions, one at a time, against any nation deemed a threat are over.


76 posted on 05/02/2012 4:20:58 PM PDT by emax
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Would take all of about an hour were you to do it properly, and that includes flight-time. In fact, all our boys could stay home for some R&R and still get the job done.


79 posted on 05/02/2012 5:21:22 PM PDT by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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“Should”, “Would”, “Could”, “maybe”, “probably”, “possibly”.. etc, etc, etc... have been hearing it for ages.. Not Happening!

Don’t we know, they are still “tightening sanctions”.


81 posted on 05/02/2012 5:43:54 PM PDT by odds
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