Source: Zimmerman says Trayvon circled his SUV, frightened him

Orlando Sentinel ^ | 3May 2012 | Rene Stutzman

[ironman]

George Zimmerman told investigators that while he was on the phone with a Sanford police dispatcher reporting Trayvon Martin as suspicious, the teenager was circling his vehicle on foot, a source familiar with the investigation told the Orlando Sentinel.

The source said Zimmerman's account of events hasn't changed in his several statements to police — in which he said he was so unnerved by the teen's behavior that he rolled up his window to avoid a confrontation. However, he never mentioned any of that while talking to the dispatcher.

The details revealed by the source provide new insight into what Zimmerman said happened in the earliest moments of his contact with Trayvon. And they may reveal the inconsistencies alluded to by prosecutors in the case.

One of those inconsistencies: Zimmerman told police Trayvon had his hand over Zimmerman's mouth during their fight on the night he shot Trayvon.

The Sentinel's source confirmed that Zimmerman's statements include that allegation. But authorities do not believe that happened, the source told the Sentinel, because on one 911 call, someone can be heard screaming for help. If it were Zimmerman, as he claims, his cries were not muffled, the source said.

Zimmerman also told police, the source told the Sentinel, that while the two were on the ground, Trayvon reached for Zimmerman's gun, and the two struggled over it.

[Jonty30]

Quite possibly. I would never deny any possible facts of the situation and the trial will be interesting to see.

I’m just into assuming the worst of people, unless the evidence is clear to support it. Usually Occam’s Razor is the most accurate and I try to stick with it as much as I can.

I personally presume that both men were acting relatively rational in their respective situations and all we know for certain is that one young man is deaf and the other is trying to save himself from jail.

[ladyjane]

Ever notice how it is almost always “Zimmerman” and “Travon” in the news.

Last name the stranger. First name the friend.

Never would the headline read: “Source: George says Martin circled his SUV, frightened him”

Very interesting. You're right.

[bgill]

The article posted screen shots of the the girl’s FB pages and from what I saw she was definitely not Martin’s gf. She was interested in some other guy and was texting her girl friends that night about general girl stuff and was out shopping with her mom the following morning. When she did hear about Martin’s death, she merely posted something like RIP and he’d be missed but then went on texting her friends about other stuff. So, that story about him being on the phone with her that the family has been spreading is nothing but hogwash.

[Jonty30]

As I said, that may very well be. I wouldn’t deny the possibility of it.

I’m just waiting for the trial, so all the facts can be put on the table and see what the real story might be.

That doesn’t change my position at this point in time.

[chris37]

No, smartass, because little black grandmothers generally aren’t dangerous.

Young black males, on the other hand, are, and they have been noted as such.

Furthermore, if one or more young black males ever place my life or anyone else’s life who may happen to be in my presence in danger, then guess what...

[jiggyboy]

Good catch.

“Referring to Martin by his first name and Zimmerman by his last is just one small tactic in the national media campaign to make Martin’s death an enduring symbol of white racism.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/trayvon_and_zimmerman_the_structure_and_elements_of_a_disinformation_campaign.html

[jiggyboy]

re “Dee Dee” who in fact is almost certainly not Martin’s “girlfriend” if this guy’s research is legit (go about halfway down for Facebook posts & pics):

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/

[William Tell]

From the linked article: "Gilbreath described that as one of the inconsistencies in Zimmerman's story — because getting out of the vehicle and looking for the teen is not the act of someone who is afraid."

Spoken like a true coward who doesn't understand that "bravery" is doing one's duty despite being afraid. There is nothing brave about facing a situation that instills no fear.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Wait for all of the evidence to come out as a whole. Then give an essessment of what happened. Don’t do it on little scraps of evidence doled out one scrap at a time.

Hear, hear!

But of course, if the general public took that attitude, journalism would be seen to be far less important on a day-to-day basis than journalism wants and needs to be seen as. And what fun would there be in that for journalists?

And what is convenient, useful, and yes, fun for journalists is the only consideration. To journalists.

[Aunt Polgara]

>>>Ever notice how it is almost always “Zimmerman” and “Travon” in the news.

Last name the stranger. First name the friend.<<<

It could also be, last name - the adult, first name - the child, but I wouldn't necessarily put too much weight on it.

It could just be that they used the most distinctive names, (which, of course, helps tell their deceitful story).

[bgill]

Yes, that’s the link which blows “the girlfriend on the phone heard the whole thing” out of the water. That was update #10 and here are further updates:

Update #11 – Trayvon Martin Shooting – Final Deconstruction of Benjamin Crumps Media Evidencehttp://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/22/update-11-trayvon-martin-shooting-final-deconstruction-of-benjamin-crumps-media-evidence/

Update #12 Trayvon Martin Shooting – You will Never Meet DeeDee But You Can Confront The Media…http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/26/trayvon-martin-shooting-you-will-never-meet-deedee-but-you-can-confront-the-media/

Update #13 – The Trayvon Martin Shooting – The Julison Communications Racist Agenda and Trail To Washington DC…. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/30/update-13-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-the-julison-communications-racist-agenda-and-trail-to-washington-dc/ This one wraps some other threads up about how Ryan Julison created the Trayvon St. Skittles image. A later update shows that Julison has been busy this week scrubbing his website and posts.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/02/update-14-trayvon-martin-shooting-the-local-plot-thickens/ WOW!!! You thought the Reuters article about Zimmerman was good, read this. It links Martin Atty. Natalie Jackson and her knowing full well how hard Zimmerman worked to bring the killer of a homeless black man to justice.

[Trailerpark Badass]

I Just threw that out in response to thé claim Martin was out to beat a white man for fun.

Yeah, because that's like the most preposterous idea in the world.

[Jaded]

Theconservativetreehouse.com has an article specifically about this... here http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/

the site has alot of great information about the entire scam going on.

[patriot08]

While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

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Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.

[cherry]

riots will push the freeper obamists out in bigger numbers to vote the messiah back in...some never learn..

[Jonty30]

And neither, at least on this board for a few posters, blowing a black man’s head off, just for the clear thrill of it.

[freedomrings69]

It should be easy enough to determine if they were talking on the phone at that time. The phone companies keep records. I doubt if she made that up, it is too easy to check.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Zimmerman? Yeah, we think that idea's preposterous, and made utterly unlikely due to Zimmerman's background.

But if you want to continue with the Zimmerman-as-Racist-Death-Wish-Vigilante-Hunting-Down-Innocent-Young-Boys-of-Color scenario, be my guest.

[Jonty30]

I don’t think that Zimmerman was like that and I see nothing to seriously suggest that Martin was beating Zimmerman for the simple thrill of it.

I think that both were afraid of each other and that each other reacted to that.

[Jacob Kell]

>If Trayvon did something threatening, while Zimmerman was in the SUV, why did he put himself in further danger by getting out?

Maybe after Martin moved off, Zimmerman thought that he might have been up to no good. There were robberies that were previously committed in the community by black youths.