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To: muawiyah; Secret Agent Man

This is also something is hard for me to understand.

I know that the dead are here. I’m not sure if they are all here, but some of them are. I know this because I have seen them, and I have touched a ghost with my hand as well.

I also know a very upstanding young lady whom my grandmother loved very much, and this young lady has both seen and spoken with the ghost of my grandmother who has been dead for twelve years.


487 posted on 05/06/2012 6:13:44 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
Some things have no quick answer. Thai people report numerous experiences like that ~ almost an ethnic thing with them, but they are nominally Buddhist

All I can tell you is most Christians distinguish between reincarnation and resurrection, but frequently without an understanding of what folks who believe in reincarnation believe.

What you are describing is neither reincarnation nor resurrection ~ so you might want to find a clergyman who knows about such things.

504 posted on 05/06/2012 6:30:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: chris37
I know that the dead are here. I’m not sure if they are all here, but some of them are. I know this because I have seen them, and I have touched a ghost with my hand as well.

Speaking of touching Spirits...


 Doctrine and Covenants       Section 129

 
Instructions given by Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, 9 February 1843, making known three grand keys by which the correct nature of ministering angels and spirits may be distinguished (see History of the Church, 5:267).

1–3, There are both resurrected and spirit bodies in heaven; 4–9, Keys are given whereby messengers from beyond the veil may be identified.
1 There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones;
2 For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
3 Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory.
4 When a messenger comes saying he has a message from God, offer him your hand and request him to shake hands with you.
5 If he be an angel he will do so, and you will feel his hand.
6 If he be the spirit of a just man made perfect he will come in his glory; for that is the only way he can appear;
7 Ask him to shake hands with you, but he will not move, because it is contrary to the order of heaven for a just man to deceive; but he will still deliver his message.
8 If it be the devil as an angel of light, when you ask him to shake hands he will offer you his hand, and you will not feel anything; you may therefore detect him.
9 These are three grand keys whereby you may know whether any administration is from God.

       Joseph Smith



No; Joseph did NOT use this method when confronting the two 'personages'.

637 posted on 05/06/2012 8:39:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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