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What Motivates the Left, Love for the Poor or Hatred against the Rich?
Townhall.com ^ | May 7, 2012 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 05/07/2012 4:17:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
Socialism is best thought of as a conspiracy to enslave the productive middle class, using the envy for the lower classes, and for the benefit of the upper classes.

Think about how many members of the radical Left are children of wealth, like Ayers and his wife.

The real objective of the radical left is to make it impossible for a smart, energetic person of modest means to become wealthy, and possibly displace some of the old elite via competition.

21 posted on 05/07/2012 5:47:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

Neither. That want the whole world dependent upon them. For instance oil companies. They don’t hate oil-in fact most libs have a bigger “carbon footprint” than anyone else.

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/NussbaumOnDesign/archives/2007/02/gores_carbon_fo.html

what they hate are “oil companies” whom everyone else is dependent upon...which makes it hard for the libs to control.

Basically Liberalism is the collective manifestation of all the worst of the individual crazy control freaks you’ve ever met in your life.


22 posted on 05/07/2012 5:52:10 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: mo

“they want” ....


23 posted on 05/07/2012 5:52:48 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I know you know your bible, but review this set of verses in light of what motivates the left:

2 Tim 3
1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

"having the form of godliness but denying its power" - liberalism as a religion. Desiring the "feel good" of godliness, but denying His authority over their lives.

"the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women" - Modern feminism. You don't need a family, especially a "man". You can have all the protection and provision from the government without any of the obligations of being a wife to a man.

24 posted on 05/07/2012 6:01:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Excellent. Truth always divides.

-—7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds-—

So true of countless modern intellectuals, from Marx through Keynes and Kinsey.

For anyone interested, see “Degenerate Moderns,” or “Intellectuals.”


25 posted on 05/07/2012 6:08:33 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Kaslin

If they were honest, the Dems would admit their constituency is made up of a lot of whiners and people who feel life hasn’t been fair to them. They should be millionaires and not the people who actually are millionaires through dint of hard work. Human nature. many people are just jealous of what other people have. Which is why there will always be a Dem party. Or the Thief Party as I call it now. Here in Wisconsin the Dems (especially teachers union members) are boiling mad that Scott Walker made them contribute to their retirement and health fund. And they’re really mad that Walker’s reforms worked. So they’ve got a bunch of candidates who are lying about what Walker did, and are promising to steal the money back for the teachers. Which would plunge the state back into billions of dollars of debt. These people are shameless.


26 posted on 05/07/2012 6:18:05 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Kaslin

A lot of rich socialists out there. They love socialism because it locks out their competition.


27 posted on 05/07/2012 6:23:46 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Kaslin

Hatred, of course.

I have systematically purged every liberal acquaintence from my life. Not only are they actively trying to destroy my country, they are the angriest, most spiteful and jealous people I know.


28 posted on 05/07/2012 6:27:30 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: snowrip
Hatred, of course.

Hate is an unavoidable byproduct of envy, which is an unavoidable byproduct of vanity. Vanity/pride is the root cause of all sin. Humility is a virtue, vanity is a vice. To fight evil and leftist thought we need more humility. But humility is very hard to achieve when even the left side of the bell curve has no awe of God. Instead of saying grace before dinner they now check their EBT balance on their free smart phone, while their big screen cable TV blares in the background and the kids have their iPods plugged into their ears checking Twitter and Facebook messages on their iPads.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 6:48:06 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: knarf
I have replied to several posts before with this Ayn Rand statement I read this years ago after pondering the same question this article asks. I still belive it is the best explanation.

Superficially, the motive of those who hate the good is taken to be envy. A dictionary definition of envy is: "1. a sense of discontent or jealousy with regard to another's advantages, success, possessions, etc. 2. desire for an advantaged position possessed by another." (The Random House Dictionary, 1968.) The same dictionary adds the following elucidation: "To envy is to feel resentful because someone else possesses or has achieved what one wishes oneself to possess or to have achieved."

This covers a great many emotional responses, which come from different motives. In a certain sense, the second definition is the opposite of the first, and the more innocent of the two.

For example, if a poor man experiences a moment's envy of another man's wealth, the feeling may mean nothing more than a momentary concretization of his desire for wealth; the feeling is not directed against that particular rich person and is concerned with the wealth, not the person. The feeling, in effect, may amount to: "I wish I had an income or a house, or a car, or an overcoat) like his." The result of this feeling may be an added incentive for the man to improve his financial condition.

The feeling is less innocent, if it amounts to: "I want this man's car (or overcoat, or diamond shirt studs, or industrial establishment)." The result is a criminal.

But these are still human beings, in various stages of immorality, compared to the inhuman object whose feeling is: "I hate this man because he is wealthy and I am not."

Envy is part of this creature's feeling, but only the superficial, semirespectable part; it is the tip of an iceberg showing nothing worse than ice, but with the submerged part consisting of a compost of rotting living matter. The envy, in this case, is semirespectable because it seems to imply a desire for material possessions, which is a human being's desire. But, deep down, the creature has no such desire: it does not want to be rich, it wants the human being to be poor.

This is particularly clear in the much more virulent cases of hatred, masked as envy, for those who possess personal values or virtues: hatred of a man (or a woman) because he (or she) is beautiful or intelligent or successful or honest or happy. In these cases, the creature has no desire and makes no effort to improve its appearance, to develop or to use its intelligence, to struggle for success, to practice honesty, to be happy (nothing can make it happy). It knows that the disfigurement or the mental collapse or the failure or the immorality or the misery of its victim would not endow it with his or her value. It does not desire the value: it desires the value's destruction.

30 posted on 05/07/2012 7:07:20 AM PDT by johnny reb (I Have Not Yet Begun To Tea Party!)
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To: Kaslin

Wrong choices given.

The absolute convictions that
(1) they are smarter, superior than you and me; therefore they ought to be in charge of everything;
and (2) all others are just ‘tools’ to be used as they see fit, all for the greater good, of course.


31 posted on 05/07/2012 7:37:06 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: knarf

Yep. Bloodthirsty power is the correct answer.


32 posted on 05/07/2012 7:37:21 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: Kaslin
The Left is motivated by the lust to be slavemasters over everyone they perceive as “thinking they're better than me.”

Of course, they don't understand that the number of slavemasters would be very few and that, even though they voted to enslave “them,” they would also be under the lash.

33 posted on 05/07/2012 8:08:27 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: snowrip; Kaslin

The leftists hate the poor, too. They want to keep poor people poor and ignorant. If they loved poor people they’d want them to become responsible and diligent members of society.

Leftists hate everyone and everything. It is said that lust, greed and anger are the three gates leading to hell. Lust, greed and anger are the very guiding lights of leftists.


34 posted on 05/07/2012 10:09:58 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Of course they do?


35 posted on 05/07/2012 10:34:55 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

The left hates themselves. Their hate simply carries over to everyone else.


36 posted on 05/07/2012 10:37:10 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: sport

The 10 Commandments was written for a purpose. Those human vices for which it was written are the same vices that the Left exploits for their pursuit of power and control.


37 posted on 05/07/2012 11:56:59 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: jonrick46
The 10 Commandments was written for a purpose. Those human vices for which it was written are the same vices that the Left exploits for their pursuit of power and control.

The Left always appeals to all that is base in the human character. The reason is not hard to fathom.

While there are a few demagogues who simply exploit the base tendencies, most of those on the Left are compulsion driven. Hating the reality that we are all different--and hence each responsible for our own performance--they seek fantasy driven wish lists, that deny reality--and they do so with a fervor that says much about the neurotic compulsions that substitute for human reason.

For example, see Compulsion For Uniformity; or The Greatest Mischief Ever Wrought.

William Flax

38 posted on 05/07/2012 12:26:48 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Bravo! You contribution to the subject is most appreciated!

I often refer to the Left as living in the fantasy world of the Unicorn Farm. It is the fantasy of Utopia, devoid of reality that keeps them in bondage on the farm I call the Unicorn Farm. The Unicorn Farm is a slave plantation. They are slaves to their own human vices that the Left exploits.


39 posted on 05/07/2012 2:05:48 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Kaslin
For too many liberals like Obama, “fairness” is not about enriching the modest; it’s about impoverishing the moneyed.

That's more of a pose. People who talk that way usually don't want their own income or privileges to decrease. It's just the comforting things they like to tell themselves.

Maybe somebody else, somewhere will have to pay more taxes. They won't. I'm not sure where that leaves us.

40 posted on 05/07/2012 5:04:04 PM PDT by x
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