[lentulusgracchus]

Rugby is a sport of equally vicious hits as football, a true team mentality, manliness, and more nationalism and country pride than ANY liberal could ever handle.

I know, but its appearance in the Ivies suggests that it has gazoot here in the States as a classier, class-proclamatory "non-football football", a way of saying "I'm better than football, football players will spend their lives as my lackeys, aaahahahaaaa!" Or words to that effect. Well, maybe that's Dad talking, who knows.

[lentulusgracchus]

And of course I know it's not like that in the Old Country, or Down Under ..... where Australian Rules has never been about social one-upmanship.

I'm just saying that that is being done here in the States -- with everything. Computer camps for kids, "feeders for Princeton", and all that.