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White supremacists arrested on 'race war' charges in Florida
The Chicago Tribune / The Los Angeles Times ^ | May 8, 2012 | Richard Fausset

Posted on 05/08/2012 1:27:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Law enforcement officials in central Florida have been rounding up members of a white supremacist group who were allegedly training with weapons at a rural Osceola County compound. The training was reportedly in preparation for a coming "race war."

The group was also planning a "disturbance" at Orlando City Hall to recruit new members, according to court documents.

The arrests of the 10 alleged members of the neo-Nazi skinhead group American Front, or AF, came after a confidential informant infiltrated its Osceola County chapter and shared information about the group's plans with state investigators.

The arrests serve as one of numerous reminders of the efforts of law enforcement to monitor, and sometimes crack down on, the militia and hate groups whose numbers have ticked up since the election of President Obama.

In Alaska on Monday, a 12-member jury was selected in the trial of three militia members who are accused of planning to kill judges and police, according to the Anchorage Daily News. In Georgia on Tuesday, two militia members who had allegedly planned to attack government workers and buildings attended a pretrial hearing after two of their alleged conspirators agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors, according to the Associated Press.

Seven of the arrests in Florida occurred over the weekend, with three more suspects arrested Monday, according to court documents and a statement from the office of Lawson Lamar, the state attorney based in Orlando.

Each of the seven, including the apparent ringleader, Marcus Faella, 41, faces state felony charges of attempting to shoot into an occupied dwelling, evidence of prejudice while committing a crime, and violation of a state "paramilitary training" statute....

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: astroturf; fibbieclownshow; lmm; obama; racewar; racism
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The arrests serve as one of numerous reminders of the efforts of law enforcement to monitor, and sometimes crack down on, the militia and hate groups whose numbers have ticked up since the election of President Obama.

Are they casting "tea party" groups as "militia" groups and mentioning them in the same sentence then as "hate groups"?

The pravda media needs to spin harder if they want to see Obama re-elected.

51 posted on 05/08/2012 3:55:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

neo-nazis are still socialists.


52 posted on 05/08/2012 3:56:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
I'm guessing the dude's sketchy about his personal info. Well founded imo. Shall we turn the glass on you or leave this be?
53 posted on 05/08/2012 3:59:16 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Jewbacca
I don't even know this Ashkenazi Jew but I'd love to red slurpee her.. out of love!


54 posted on 05/08/2012 4:07:07 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: allmost

What are you talking about? I was asking Jewbacca if he has people hassling him because they see him wearing his kippah.

Some Black kids threw a Slurpee at him because they saw his kippah and knew he was Jewish.


55 posted on 05/08/2012 4:08:25 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: I see my hands

Who is she?


56 posted on 05/08/2012 4:09:28 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: kiryandil
couple of billion dollars that Jon Corzine stole

He is still a top blunderer for the won, so hands off!!
57 posted on 05/08/2012 4:15:12 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

He never said he was wearing anything. You are starting to irritate me.


58 posted on 05/08/2012 4:16:06 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

Jewbacca says the guys in the car threw a Slurpee at him and called him a ‘Jew’.

Jewbacca wears a kippa.

I don’t know why I’m irritating you;this has nothing to do with you.


59 posted on 05/08/2012 4:20:10 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It really is beginning to feel like all the other melaninios are after the round-eyed crackers.


60 posted on 05/08/2012 4:23:28 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: allmost

The feeling is mutual.


61 posted on 05/08/2012 4:24:09 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Good.


62 posted on 05/08/2012 4:29:08 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

I honestly don’t know WHAT your problem is.

Have a nice life!


63 posted on 05/08/2012 4:42:01 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Limited resources, unlimited assholes.


64 posted on 05/08/2012 4:45:20 PM PDT by allmost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Any Black Panthers in jail for putting a million dollar bounty on George Zimmerman's head?"

Nope... Eric Holder sees to it that his bruthas are free to recruit more obomba youth while others belonging to other races are expected to bend over and take it.

For the record... It's not a "bounty." It's a "contract" but... that's ok. trayvon looks like the wanna be father, the white/black president obomba, imaginary son. His problem is the white/black president obomba isn't man enough to father a son.

65 posted on 05/08/2012 5:13:36 PM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney (aka - obomney)... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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To: allmost

Pot calling the kettle black?


66 posted on 05/08/2012 5:24:47 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Yeah, okay. You call the offense.


67 posted on 05/08/2012 5:27:59 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

What?


68 posted on 05/08/2012 5:30:12 PM PDT by allmost
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Done.


69 posted on 05/08/2012 5:31:02 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

I don’t understand why you commented in the first place;I was speaking to Jewbacca,not you.

All I asked him was if he has a problem with anti-Semitic comments because he wears his kippah and had a Slurpee thrown at him. What is so offensive about that to you? I wasn’t even addressing you.

Again,what does this have to do with you,and why are you so pissed?


70 posted on 05/08/2012 5:34:01 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: allmost

Good.I’m done arguing with an ignoramus.


71 posted on 05/08/2012 5:35:58 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and the Muslims planning Jihad in South Carolina and New york are worrying??


72 posted on 05/08/2012 6:38:34 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Romney would surrender to Islam as fast as Obama promotes it)
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To: allmost
Read post 33 and come back to reality. He simply asked if antisemitic incidents were common for him. I am curious also if its an issue. Mostly I'm curious where/whom gives him the biggest problem. JMHO blacks are on average the most racist identifiable group of people.

You seemed to react very poorly to a question you were not asked and you didn't understand and were incorrect in your statements. I will now just mentally note that your future posts have very little value and probably a complete disregard for facts and comprehension.

73 posted on 05/08/2012 7:45:40 PM PDT by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: allmost
"When was the last time you were accosted due to your ethnicity?"

Great question, because its answer highlights the fact that there is no era, region or skin color that's immune to hateful prejudice. Thrice in my life I have been in mortal peril due to what could be referred to as my "ethnicity," and/or physical appearance:

1978 Hawai'i (a group of teenage "Mokes" {Native Hawai'ians} with a massive, constipated ringleader sneered at me "We're gonna cut your fu__in' heart out, you stinkin' haolie!" near the International Marketplace, Waikiki, Oahu.

1982 Miami FL (drunken Redneck Mafia losers in a bar in Homestead accused me of "lookin' like Satan..." over my long hair, goatee and Fu-Manchu mustache. Keep in mind, these were White guys... sort of...)

1988 South Central L.A. (a gang of hermanos in a '68 Impala "Low Rider" followed me and my then-fiancée for several convoluted left-right-left blocks before I finally shook them at a red light).

There is no skin color, racial group or social caste which has ever been immune to prejudice, or completely free from some form of slavery or other oppressive/brutal tyranny.

Weird, huh? It's enough to make you want to just stay home and oil the vast gun collection.

;-\

74 posted on 05/09/2012 2:08:09 AM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: TLI
That photo of the two (actual) brothers at the bottom of that pathetic list is hysterically, poignantly funny. How I would love five minutes alone in a room with those two drooling, functionally-and-socially illiterate imbeciles. They actually believe they're so very baaaad-ass.

I'd just teach them to pray...

75 posted on 05/09/2012 2:17:29 AM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
"Who is she?"

Scarlett Johannsen (Swedish by appearance... among other things, including "NOT GUILTY!").

LMAO!

76 posted on 05/09/2012 2:20:20 AM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: SaraJohnson
Don’t forget LaRaza.
 
The Anasazi certainly won't.   But oddly enough "Who Ate the Anasazi?"...

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=10&gs_id=cr&xhr=t&q=Anasazi+cannibalism

...is not a topic covered on the "Culturally uplifting" folklorico graffiti down at La Raza Park.


http://www.graspyouth.org/whats-new/?currentPage=2
 
 
Fortunately for all Americans, we have a Republic with laws that keep that sort of tribal/religious tyranny from proliferating within.... for now.

77 posted on 05/09/2012 5:53:15 AM PDT by OldEarlGray
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To: Jewbacca

If you’d had a gun you could have shot the bastards and claimed you thought they were throwing acid on you.


78 posted on 05/09/2012 7:39:05 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: I see my hands
She is a horrendous liberal...very very outspoken...would be on her knees or on her back for Obama in an instant...not that he would be up for it

and only half Jewish though it is the “right” side

79 posted on 05/09/2012 7:54:37 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ok... So what REAL law did they break? Who was their Victim? What damage was done? Where is the tort here?

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

I have no love for skinheads and other assorted low-brow inbred types. I have even less love for an out of control government goading these same groups just to pull a publicity stunt like this. The double standard aside, this is dangerous sh*t for a government to be doing.

80 posted on 05/09/2012 8:02:36 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: allmost; POWERSBOOTHEFAN; Pelham
He never said he was wearing anything.

He sure as Hades alluded to it in his reply hoss

Get your facts straight before you try to stir up what I'm sure you were hoping could lead to you calling someone anti Semite when in fact it looked like nothing of the sort. I too read Jewbacca's posts and wondered how these kids knew he was Jewish for sure till Jewbacca said in the reply to you this:

Nope, 100% Ashkenazi, beard, kippot, etc.

Powersboothfan did nothing wrong whatsoever...I too would like to know that if Jewbacca dresses traditional or has peyos etc does he frequently get slurred by strangers etc and what sorts of folks do that if it is common

I lived in Manhattan in the 80s and worked in the Diamond District and never saw anything like that there..and there were Lubavitch and other Orthodox all over the place ...we even have a few here in Nashville...one is a prominant gun rights advocate whom I actually know...

You want to find serious anti Jewishness...go to some black areas or to our Muslim communities and you have it in spades...ferreting around this forum is silly...arguably there is not a stronger pro Israel forum on the internet

You have been a real jerk for nothing and you owe Powers an apology.

Any freeper can review the exchange and see for themselves you were making something up hoping to smear someone for bigotry that was not there.

I absolutely detest when freepers here do that....and lord knows they do...there is nothing some here on a conservative forum like better than smearing someone as bigot or racist.

81 posted on 05/09/2012 8:13:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Free_in_Alabama

You take offense to my posts, I apologize, no stress or offense was meant.


82 posted on 05/09/2012 8:19:53 AM PDT by allmost
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To: wardaddy
I meant no offense. You are clearly looking for some. Seek and ye shall find. I don't mean anything offensive towards the other individuals. This 'internet' leaves much to be desired as far as intentions go...

No apology to you.

83 posted on 05/09/2012 8:27:49 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Terry Mross

“If you’d had a gun you could have shot the bastards and claimed you thought they were throwing acid on you.”

Rather difficult to fly commercial armed, alas.

I do have a concealed permit, valid in Texas. I will probably check my handgun, but I don’t know the procedure, and they keep it vague to try to get you in trouble, I think.


84 posted on 05/09/2012 8:31:02 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: wardaddy; POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Yes, I am an Orthodox Jewish guy. Israeli native, although also a USA citizen.

Regarding “anti-semitic” events, it’s probably monthly I get something.

Anytime I ride the subway in the northeast in a non-Jewish area, I’ll get something from a bum, typically a black guy. Just crude comments trying to get a rise. Same stuff they do to women or you, but targeted at visible Jewishness. I don’t know if I count that.

Hairly eyeball from arab/ME street vendors, etc. any time they see me. Don’t count that. They probably do that to everyone.

Catcalls (”[insert insult] Jooooooooo”) in London, Paris. Typical stuff. I tend to wave and say “thank you, yes, I know!”

Actual, real, events have been 5-6 over a lifetime.

I got put in the hospital in Cambridge by a drunk white guys who decided to run up and smash the back of our heads we paving stones as we walked to shul one Friday night. This was, by far, the most serious.

My wife and I had a very unpleasant encounter with arabs on the Berkeley campus (she was there for medical conference), where we got pushed around out of the blue. I got a fat lip and I broke some teeth out of one guy.

The slurpee incident in Houston, which was unpleasant, but no big deal. Ruined my shirt and tie, but no one sat next to me on the Soutwest flight!

There are some others that I forget as I sit here, and lots of stupid crap in school that I don’t count.

On the bright/funny side, I got asked to have sex in an asian country so the woman (who was married and a professional, and no, not that kind of “professional”) could have smart children who would do well financially. She was very serious and rather insulted I wouldn’t sleep with her.

Not sure if that was “anti” semitic, but it was very odd.


85 posted on 05/09/2012 9:00:34 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Gargantua

I didn’t recognize her in that photo.


86 posted on 05/09/2012 11:05:41 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: Free_in_Alabama

LOL. I’m a ‘She’. ;)


87 posted on 05/09/2012 11:11:00 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: Jewbacca

There’s so much Jew-hatred in this world. Being a Jew myself I couldn’t help but wonder.


88 posted on 05/09/2012 11:18:18 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: allmost
No apology to you.

I didn't ask for one for myself...you weren't addressing me

89 posted on 05/09/2012 12:19:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: wardaddy
Sarcasm dude. If I were against you, you would know it. And vice versa I hope. I meant no offense to anyone here. I happen to have lived through an inordinate amount of racism myself and it can be a touchy subject. Anyone can find a reason to be pissed off in this thread. Do you choose to be angry about something?
90 posted on 05/09/2012 12:26:05 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Jewbacca

some of those are quite serious...I too have been attacked by blacks for being white

different matter but similar

i just deal with it...and that is something that did not happen till the 80s onwards...before that in the South blacks were not hostile to whites in general

aside from Muzzies, I think the worst modern Jew haters have to have been the Ustashi

if you really delve into how they treated the Serbs and Jews it is nothing short of about the worst mass behavior I have ever see

if it caused Himmler to ask them to tone it down then that sort of tells you it must have been bad

and that it involved some tacit approval from Catholic Church officals in the Ustashi against the Jews and Orthodox Serbs is about as ugly as Western Civilization gets

anyhow...the real world is hard...harder for some than others

sorry for that

I get frustrated with progressive Jews myself and know plenty and have argued with them for decades but then I try to balance that with the fact we have Mark Levin and it feels like my side is still ahead..lol

I worked a bit in Ramat Gan and politics never much came up except that I was obviously pro Israel but not like some Christians are for Rapture reasoning

I looked around and said I prefer to hang with folks who are civilized and whose culture is more like me...and in the Middle East...that is an easy call is it not?


91 posted on 05/09/2012 12:30:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: allmost
This fixation on bigotry towards any minority is a new tradition.

I simply do not care unless it's violent as in one of the cases Jewbacca described.

I have lived the world over and often as a minority and come from the blackest state in the US

people tend to stick with their own kind...and I see no issue with that

be kind to others ..show respect until given a reason otherwise

the past 30 years have taught me in contrast to be wary of younger black men...and I am

if that is prejudice then so be it

ditto for Islam followers as a rule

I never resort to calling someone bigot or racist unless it's something really over the top.

But in this era...quite frequently simply the truth is racist because some people just can't handle it

Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." The very fact that that so irritates people is proof of how right it is, because in many cases today the most offensive thing anybody can say is the truth about something. Political correctness was created to mask and hide the truth.....from Rush Limbaugh

92 posted on 05/09/2012 12:42:19 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
LOL - You were kind of far away so I couldn't tell but now that I am closer, you are definitely a very attractive woman ;)

I'm curious about this because people think the south is so racist and yet I very rarely see that down here. Very few Jewish people around these parts so I never see the antisemitic things that happen. Now we get plenty of Baptists vs Methodists vs Church of Christ wars going on :) they can be brutal don't ya know.

93 posted on 05/09/2012 1:06:19 PM PDT by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: Free_in_Alabama

I’m OK I guess but I could use some sun;I’ve been in Florida since ‘93 and I’m still pale. I’m mostly German so I burn easily,thus I tend to avoid the sun.

Baptists vs Methodists vs Church of Christ? What? No Catholics? (I’m kidding)

I can see a free-for-all going on,LOL


94 posted on 05/09/2012 1:22:54 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: Free_in_Alabama

There are many more Jews down in Tampa and even more in West Palm Beach. I’ve been to the latter city just once;I’ve been to Tampa a billion times. I’m a HUGE hockey fan and I go to see the Lightning whenever I can.


95 posted on 05/09/2012 1:27:27 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
"I didn’t recognize her in that photo."

Funny. I almost didn't recognize her with clothes on...

;^D

96 posted on 05/09/2012 2:21:45 PM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: Jewbacca

That was not typical of Houston.

I won’t apologize for those POSs, they should do that for themselves.

Would love to have gotten their license and filed a complaint, though.


97 posted on 05/09/2012 2:34:55 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Gargantua

The stars of today aren’t as gorgeous and beautiful as the stars of yesterday.

The men can’t compare to the likes of Clark Gable,Cary Grant, Tyrone Power or Errol Flynn.


98 posted on 05/09/2012 2:46:52 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
I had her back when she was nice...

LOL

99 posted on 05/09/2012 2:52:31 PM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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