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To: Hodar
So, as I understand it, EVERYONE was positively identified, dating back to the beginning of time, whenever they went to trial, except this one exception.

You're asking me to prove a negative. You've really had your brain dry-cleaned by the control freaks.

Until the advent of fingerprints, it was common procedure to change your name, after you were released from prison. Remember, the whole idea of "positive ID" is only about 120 years old.

Of course, until recently, going to prison was considered payment for a crime, and they were forgiven, having "paid their debt." They weren't branded, more effectivly than Banished Cain, after they were released. Now, society can make sure they can never hold a paying job, till the day they die. That's an improvement, alright.

Somehow, I'm willing to wager that someone went to jail under a name that was not his own before then. Also note that "Mr. X" is not nameless. He just doesn't have a name that can be traced.

18 posted on 05/09/2012 4:26:24 PM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: jonascord
So, as I understand it, EVERYONE was positively identified, dating back to the beginning of time, whenever they went to trial, except this one exception.

Yup, because pretty much as a rule - a person is charged with a crime. When the person is charged, his name is entered. You see, the Police have this "form" and the "form" has an entry that says "Name". With me so far? Now believe it or not, the Courts have forms with this "Name" entry in them too!

You've really had your brain dry-cleaned by the control freaks.

Another personal attack? Do you read the rules on the posts about personal attacks, or do these rules not apply to you? I'm debating a very specific point - and if you have nothing better to add - admit you are intellectually incapable of debating this point and leave the name-calling to the 5th graders.

Of course, until recently, going to prison was considered payment for a crime, and they were forgiven, having "paid their debt." They weren't branded, more effectivly than Banished Cain, after they were released. Now, society can make sure they can never hold a paying job, till the day they die. That's an improvement, alright.

Yup, you see it's kind of a "dis-incentive" to take on a life of crime, and preying upon innocent citizens. As a businessman, I have a lot of "innocent" people all applying for a job. A convicted felon has demonstrated that he has no integrity, that he will prey, steal or abuse any trust that has been placed with him. It makes my life very easy, in that I will immediately reject his application and focus on qualified people who have "somehow" managed not to be predetor, who have not stolen, forged, raped, dealt in illegal activities - and I have a group of people whom I can give the benefit of the doubt. Society may have "forgiven" his crimes, but I doubt the victims have, and I know that "I" haven't. My business, my employees, my family and my customers have an expectation that they will not be placed in danger of theft, or other abuses from the people I opt to bring into my company. This just makes basic sense.

As a private citizen, I do not associate myself with released prisonsers - because I consider myself, my family and my friends "Better" than them. Yes, as in they are "inferior" in every respect to me, my pets and the squirrel in my neighbors tree. You see, my family, my friends, the squirrel and I have not preyed upon someone else and either hurt them, or stolen items from them. We contribute to society, we benefit those we know, we give our families something to take pride in. Pretty simple stuff.

If you don't like it - then I would encourage you not to break the laws. Pretty simple stuff, most of which children learn in Kindergarten. "Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding".

19 posted on 05/10/2012 6:49:29 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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