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Bush Solicitor General Ted Olson Hails Obama Gay Marriage Shift
The Daily Beast ^ | May 9 2012 | John Avlon

Posted on 05/10/2012 12:38:27 PM PDT by torchy

..."I am gratified that the president has thrown his personal support and the authority of the presidency behind the goal of justice, equality, and decency for all citizens," said Ted Olson, founder of the Federalist Society and former Bush administration solicitor general..

I called Olson on Wednesday to get the conservative legal leader's take on the North Carolina gay-marriage ban at the ballot and the way it sets up a Supreme Court showdown, possibly as early as 2013--no matter who is president.

Olson has stern words for his fellow conservatives who flooded the polls on Tuesday, making North Carolina the 30th state to enshrine a ban on gay marriage in its state constitution.

"It is very sad to me that people who belong to the party of Abraham Lincoln are resisting so strenuously the equality and decency and integrity and treatment of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters," Olson said. "This seems to be one of the last major civil-rights battles of our country. And for people in our country to come out in numbers like this and say, ‘Well, we don't want the persons next door--who are decent, God-fearing, taxpaying, obeying-the-law citizens who simply want to have happiness like the rest of us'--to say ‘No, I have that right and you can't have it.' That just seems mean to me."..

This is a profile-in-courage moment for President Obama, but it comes with considerable political risks. The decision recalls a moment of White House history that came to light in the fourth volume of Robert Caro's LBJ biography. When cautioned by advisers that advancing civil rights might be moral but would not be politically pragmatic in 1964, the new president leaned back in his chair and said, "Well, what the hell's the presidency for?"...

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: avlon; civilliberty; civilrights; homosexualagenda; law; legalscholarship; nolabels; olson; rino; tedolson; torched; zot; zotworthy
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To: torchy

http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/holy-singers/the-belated-education-of-john-avlon/

“Conservative”? (”Scholar”?)

After the decisive rejection and ejection of GOP moderate statesman Dick Lugar,
IMHO the definition of “conservative” no longer includes the word “moderate.”

From now on, conservatives will not want to go along to get along. Why should we? We’re calling the shots.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 12:51:33 PM PDT by tumblindice (Put some ice on it Dick. La Raza is looking for a good lobbyist.)
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To: torchy

P.S.

I miss Barbara Olsen very much. She was so smart, and she was also a fellow Freeper.

I also enjoyed listening to her on TV.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 12:51:47 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: US Navy Vet

Pathetic!!! thanks for that info


23 posted on 05/10/2012 12:52:41 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ILS21R

He sees David Boies and wishes he had that kind of juice. So he decides he has to join the other side. It’s what will happen to everyone in the next generation if the socialists complete their takeover. You will have to acquiesce in their agenda or be shut out of power and wealth. Those with ambition will have to go along. Unless we win now.


24 posted on 05/10/2012 12:54:11 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: torchy
‘Well, we don't want the persons next door--who are decent, God-fearing, taxpaying, obeying-the-law citizens who simply want to have happiness like the rest of us'--to say ‘No, I have that right and you can't have it.' That just seems mean to me."

Does this sound like the founder of the Federalist Society, or an 8-year old girl?

25 posted on 05/10/2012 12:54:46 PM PDT by montag813
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To: torchy

It’s such a shame that Ted wasn’t in that plane instead of his wife.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 12:56:22 PM PDT by greene66
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To: torchy

I’ve lived in Manhattan and I’ve lived in Washington DC.

Both places have a very strong “culture.” The people in both places, especially the upper classes and elitists, have a surprisingly uniform and lock-step thinking.

I’m convinced that if you are living there, and soaking in this culture long enough, there is immense pressure within one’s own mind to find ways to conform and “be accepted.”

For Ted Olson (who I will guess probably still calls himself “conservative”) the gay issue does this for him.


27 posted on 05/10/2012 12:56:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: torchy
A conservative legal scholar's take.

Please ... tell us more about your definition of "conservative".

28 posted on 05/10/2012 12:56:39 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: torchy

Olson has lost my respect.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 12:57:54 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: torchy

A conservative legal scholar’s take.

###

Legal scholar? I suppose.

Conservative? Not even close.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 12:58:21 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: kosciusko51

He is probably hooking up with homo supporter Ann Coulter!


31 posted on 05/10/2012 12:58:41 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Agree. I thought the same.


32 posted on 05/10/2012 12:59:12 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: torchy

Proof positive ladies & gentlemen that there is NO difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.


33 posted on 05/10/2012 1:02:45 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: torchy

It sounds like Ted might have “evolved” too! Evolution is in the wind. We need a Chuck Darwin Day.


34 posted on 05/10/2012 1:03:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: King Hawk

He was so overshadowed by Barbara’s intellect and personality that I don’t think too many folks saw the real idiot Ted.


35 posted on 05/10/2012 1:05:28 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I think you are right, but isnt that what the so called “Log Cabin” republicans are?


36 posted on 05/10/2012 1:06:31 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: torchy

It’s amazing how calling oneself a conservative, and then taking very pro-liberal stances, gets one noticed in the national media (e.g., Ted Olson, Meghan McCain).


38 posted on 05/10/2012 1:12:03 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: torchy
Well, we don't want the persons next door--who are decent, God-fearing, taxpaying, obeying-the-law citizens who simply want to have happiness like the rest of us'--to say ‘No, I have that right and you can't have it.' That just seems mean to me."..

Not so much, methinks.

39 posted on 05/10/2012 1:13:04 PM PDT by RMDupree (I'm not really here.)
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To: torchy
I just wish folks who favor legalizing gay marriage could be honest in admitting that the Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1871 to prevent racial discrimination by state and local governments, was not meant to apply to gays or gay marriage.

Doesn't mean that states can't vote it in, as New York did recently. But the notion that "it's (gay marriage is) already IN the Constitution" is preposterous.

40 posted on 05/10/2012 1:13:18 PM PDT by pogo101
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