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Plane crash in Indonesia upends strategy to put Russian aviation on stronger path
Christian Science Monitor ^ | May 10, 2012 | Fred Weir

Posted on 05/10/2012 12:40:42 PM PDT by AmonAmarth

Russians are reeling today from a plane crash that seems likely to stall, or even thwart, a revival of its aviation industry, which has been plagued by high-profile disasters in recent years, including one that killed the Polish president and his entire entourage and another that wiped out an entire Russian hockey team.This time it was not an aging Soviet-era plane that crashed, but a Sukhoi SuperJet 100, Russia's newest commercial aircraft upon which the hopes of its aviation industry are riding. With the SuperJet, Sukhoi believes it did everything right, including cooperating with many key foreign firms in the plane's design, construction (about 70 percent of its components are foreign-made) and marketing.

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1 posted on 05/10/2012 12:40:43 PM PDT by AmonAmarth
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To: AmonAmarth

Hey,it could have been the equipment...it could have been the crew...it could have been the weather.If it’s either of the first two you know the Soviets will make sure that the world never finds out!


2 posted on 05/10/2012 12:43:44 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: AmonAmarth

Anyone on board named Mohammad?


3 posted on 05/10/2012 12:43:47 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: AmonAmarth

This accident appears to be a classic case of pilot error. Continued VFR flight into IFR conditions in mountainous terrain. Although why they didn’t have a good GPS with terrain avoidance is a head scratcher nowadays. But not an indictment of the aircraft.


4 posted on 05/10/2012 12:46:39 PM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: AmonAmarth

The Protestant work ethic completely evades the Russians. They’re too busy bullying and stabbing each other in the back to do any work.


5 posted on 05/10/2012 12:49:11 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: PilotDave

He sure seems to have gone “splat” into the steep side of a volcano. At least, if that was to case, the passengers never knew what was about to happen.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 12:58:01 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: AmonAmarth

I remember an Airbus A320 at a demo flight crashing into a forest. Didn’t seem to put a permanent black mark on Airbus and the A320s new fly by wire system.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 1:00:23 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: PilotDave

http://gallery.me.com/sdolya#102194/20120509_ssjroadshow_382&bgcolor=black

Photo purportedly of the overhead panel of the plane shortly before the incident flight. There are lots of pics of the plane and the demonstration flights. People sitting in the pilots seats, stewardesses from the different airlines, etc.

It was a celebratory atmosphere.

This photo shows the TAWS terrain warning system manually set to OFF.


8 posted on 05/10/2012 1:18:33 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: AmonAmarth

How could it happen with all the advanced Italian engineering involved. Chrysler will soon derive the same benefits with the help of FIAT, right?


9 posted on 05/10/2012 1:25:32 PM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: ltc8k6

The pre-flight checklist should have corrected that error no?


10 posted on 05/10/2012 1:28:40 PM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: AmonAmarth

It’s not necessarily on the checklist.

Technically this plane cannot crash into terrain while the TAWS system is working correctly and the plane itself is in good working order and has fuel.

It would either be the pilots ignoring the warnings, the system malfunctioned, or the system was turned off.

Now, it’s possible that with multiple demo flights in the mountainous terrain, that the pilots turned the system off because the warnings were irritating to hear all the time.

They were doing many similar flights to allow the various crews from several airlines to fly on the plane.


11 posted on 05/10/2012 1:38:25 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

taws off

Quite possibly they didn’t have certified databases for that area... Should have had a good handheld though.


12 posted on 05/10/2012 1:43:31 PM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PilotDave

Not knowing min enroute altitudes is always Pilot error.


13 posted on 05/10/2012 1:49:12 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: AmonAmarth

Those dang vacuum tubes aren’t as reliable as they used to be.


14 posted on 05/10/2012 1:53:40 PM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: PilotDave

The plane has been in service for a while, and they knew well in advance where they would be doing the demo flights.

Even without the data, the system still warns you.

If it’s on.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 1:56:28 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: AmonAmarth

Why did they turn off the terrain warning system on this flight?

16 posted on 05/10/2012 1:57:27 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2882235/posts?page=12#4

Because they were flying this demo flight in the area multiple times and the warnings were irritating?


17 posted on 05/10/2012 1:59:38 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Paleo Conservative

Why did they turn off the terrain warning system on this flight?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

They didn’t. The airplane is on the ground.

That’s the identical overhead to the Airbus A320 (except the upper right toggle switches with Russian lettering). I have 3,000 hours in that type as a Captain. The Ext PWR/Avail/ON means the airplane is on the ground and external electrical power is being supplied to the aircraft. It’s also why both Generators show fault/off, because the engines are not running. If they were, the generators would pick up the load and kick off the external power (it would then only show AVAIL). The terrain warning system does not/cannot work on the ground other than a test mode, thus TERR/FAULT/OFF.


18 posted on 05/10/2012 5:43:38 PM PDT by Captain Steve
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To: Captain Steve

I should not have said “identical” in the above comment.” It’s very similar, and certain switches and switch types are identical. ;))


19 posted on 05/10/2012 5:58:26 PM PDT by Captain Steve
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