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Posted on 05/11/2012 4:00:02 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
As the counterweight to a presidential nominee blessed with wealth and privilege, Jindal’s stirring life story as the child of Indian immigrants -- who bestowed upon himself at the age of 4 the all-American name of the youngest son in “The Brady Bunch” -- could be especially appealing.
A Rhodes scholar who helmed the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals -- the state’s largest agency -- at the almost absurd age of 24, Piyush “Bobby” Jindal’s aptitude and credentials for the nation’s second-highest office would be difficult for anyone to question seriously.
Like Jindal, Romney was an academic overachiever who may never have been the life of the party but was the kind of kid that moms hoped their daughters would bring home one day, and the two men are similar in mind-set and temperament.
Though he does not share Romney’s decades of business experience, Jindal did have a brief post-collegiate stint working as a business consultant at McKinsey & Company before entering politics, and he shares the Bain Capital co-founder’s hyper-analytical approach to governing.
Unlike Romney, who faced likely defeat in Massachusetts had he chosen to run for a second term, Jindal has remained overwhelmingly popular in his home state. In October of last year, he was re-elected with a whopping 66 percent of the vote in Louisiana’s nonpartisan blanket primary system.
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Let Bobby grow and be tempered in his office as governor- plenty of time. He’s good now, he’ll be absolutely great one day.
This is an interesting prospect. His only liability was his disastrous speech in 2009, but I think he could overcome it.
Not NBC. Not gonna happen.
Flamesuit on.
For all the talk about his 09 speech, I never saw it. I guess that’s a good thing.
Not eligible.
The media will rip him apart. We need to do away with the government media... really I am sick of them
He was born on US soil to two non US citizens that later became US citizens.....
If the GOP goes with Rubio or Jindal we forever give up the NBC part of our Constitution
“If the GOP goes with Rubio or Jindal we forever give up the NBC part of our Constitution”
Based on the definition you hold in mind, it is already gone.
Obama is the recent precedent, plus possibly others in the past.
Perfect for enabling the GOP Elite to provide ongoing cover for Obama’s lack of Natural Born Citizenship status.
Jindal and Rubio, both have to be high on Romney’s list for VP, since neither Jinda nor Rubio had parents who were American Citizens at the time of Jindal’s or Rubio’s birth, neither of them can possibly be Natural Born Citizens. (No matter how much some might like their politics.)
After all, the precedent has now been set with Obama, so no time can be wasted by the GOP-E in sealing the deal. Gotta get on with that New World Order, don’t you know...
Already too late. Ironically, the only chance we have of getting it back is by nominating a non-NBC of our own. That would result in bilateral action to prevent further occurrences. Otherwise, the Democrats will go on violating it at will.
VP: Gov. McDonnell of Va
You can bet your life on it!
I'd like Perry or Newt or Santorum. I guess Santorum is the most likely choice....bur Newt has wisdom. Perry has it all.
Question:
It’s my understanding that Jindal is not qualified as a natural born citizen to be POTUS. How in the world can he run as a VP?
Or, are we just ignoring the Constitution the way the Democrats are?
I think he actually needs his own version of Cheney or even Biden, an “old washington hand” type.
Romney’s got ZERO DC experience. And while that may be, in and of itself, a good thing, taking 6 months to learn where the bathrooms are, as they say, won’t be.
So, no to Jindal on this count only. Otherwise I’d say “YES” because I think the Indian community is already very attuned to republican party values.
That is the birther interpretation. The one every court rejects and virtually no one but a fringe bunch of conspiracy theorists take seriously.
In the actual real world, both Rubio and Jindal were born in the United States and are eligible to be VP or President. Rubio is still the favorite in my opinion and is very likely to be the VP nominee.
“In the actual real world, both Rubio and Jindal were born in the United States and are eligible to be VP or President. “
WRONG.
There is clear legal precedent requiring citizen parents for NBC.
His own version of Cheney would be Newt...it’s called wisdom.
I don't care if he's the best thing since sliced apple pie, has all the answers to save the USA, the world, is the direct descendent of Jesus Christ and George Washington, Jindal is not a NBC. Never was, never will be.
People have got to be educated about this. People have got to stop considering Jindal for anything more than he is.
Consider Jindal, then the present muslim just might as well stay in office.
Jindal is ineligibile. Senate resolution #511 says TWO citizen parents. The rino’s kept the commie usurper dunham covered because they knew they had to cover for rubio and jindal. Sorry but, no way jose.
If obama is the recent precedent, does that mean that all future Presidents could 'legally' hide - delete - all records about themselves?
obama sets precedent for all who hate America. Those who love America will abide by her rules, and fight for it.
I like him very much. If not VP, how about HHS Secretary?
I like him very much. If not VP, how about HHS Secretary?
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Just because the Democrats cheat, lie, and steal doesn’t mean that conservatives should do the same.
The problem with the RINO GOP is that they are all too willing to imitate the Dems on such matters.
Also, recent discussion has suggested that Jindal isn’t really all that conservative, although I admit that I forget the details. Sorry about that.
Is this a joke? Jindal is HORRIBLE on the National stage. He’d be eviscerated. While VP (as pretty much every poll shows) just doesn’t make that much of an ultimate difference, Romney needs someone dynamic. “Dynamic” is not sometime you use in the same sentence with Jindal.
Eligibility aside for a moment, have two Governors ever made up a Presidential ticket? Historically, Governors run with “Washington Types” who are supposed to have some foreign policy experience.
I like Bobby but he’ll be much better in Mitten’s Cabinet as Sec’y of HHS, if he wants to leave Cajun country...
/yawn
I'm going to go ahead and trust constitutional scholars like Mark Levin on this, and ignore the birther brigades who lose in court over and over and over and over again.
Sadly
No Body Cares.
The cases lost in court are all over “standing” not over legal definition of NBC.
The current courts will not touch the legal side of this issue.
Looks that way....
I like Greg Abbott attorney general of Texas.
In 2010, Allee Bautsch, a Republican Party official, and her companion were viciously attacked by leftist punks, and she was severely injured. Even though she was a major fundraiser for the party, Jindal did nothing--no denunciation of the act, no investigation--nothing. No arrests were made, and the perpetrators are still running around scot-free.
These are very dangerous times for our country, and we need leaders with courage.
HHS needs to go. No point in putting anyone in charge, except to close the department down.
No, trust Constitutional scholars who wouldn't lose their business if they honestly addressed the issue like Chief Justice Morrison Waite, who wrote the Minor v. Happersett decision, or Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, who, in 1939, wrote the decision which clarified that Marie Elg, born to immigrant citizen parents in New York, but taken back to Sweden and raised there, could return to the US because she was born on our soil to citizen parents, and her form of citizenship, unlike a child born to one or more non-citizens, could not be taken away by Congress; it was given by nature. Or, while our pundits, including Obama, act as if Chief Justice John Marshall didn't really understand what he was talking about when he cited 'Law of Nations' in The Venus, and clarified the common-law for natural born citizen, or when he established the primacy of Judicial Review in Marbury.
But do give Levin credit for explaining, in Liberty and Tyranny, p37, that our framers intentionally left definitions of terms out of the Constitution, as Madison explained in a letter, the meanings of words change over time. As Justice Waite pointed out in Minor, “At common-law, and in the language understood by our framers...”.
Jindal, Rubio, and Obama are all ineligible, but only for the presidency. The reason Obama was not vetted was the McCain too was ineligible, but for a very different reason, written about extensively beginning with McCain's 2000 campaign. That is why Democrats to such pains to try to cover for McCain, by sponsoring two actions, S.2678. Feb 2008, by Obama and McCaskill, “A Bill To Make Foreign Born Children of Military Citizens Natural Born Citizens”, and Senate Resolution 511. Apr 2008, which rested upon McCain's two citizen parents and did handwaving about what our framers might have meant, and passed in 1790, repealing in the 1795 Nationality Act, a bill to make natural born citizens of the foreign born children of Citizens. S.2678, in Feb failed to leave the Senate.
There were at least twelve other actions to attempt to amend Article II Section 1 between 2003 and 2008, three alone by John Conyer, and one by Orrin Hatch, whose bill was aimed at making Schwarzenegger eligible. Conyer’s efforts seem likely to have been aimed at laying the groundwork for Obama, but never got out of Congress.
Most people on FR know these facts, but for those who don't, we are all learning the realities of an independent judiciary, and how much the Constitution really means when people's incomes/power are at stake.
Precedent, and Leo Donofrio explained to us lay people, is nonbinding. Minor v. Happersett made common law into positive law, but that wouldn't prevent the court from redefining it. Their approach has been to ignore the law, both common and precedent.
Yup, same as Rubio and RINOmney, too. But, as pointed out by another FReeper, NoBodyCares. Just a few more steps down the Road to Rome, IMO...
Not really. That is precisely what the dems want us to do. They win either way. Either they knock out one of our candidates or they get a pass to nominate any socialist in the world with a fake US birth certificate.
What they would do would be to seal the deal by nominating a communist perhaps born in the US but raised in Europe especially Russia, China or some other socialist/communist state. The GOP could say nothing. The dems, GOP-e and Soros would make sure no true NBC candidate is ever nominated again by either party. After all, the New World Order must be served. America must be ruled by a socialist citizen of the world. By nominating a non NBC candidate, the GOP-e will prove that it is more than willing to accommodate.
Not a natural born citizen. Congress either must take up an amendment to change this law, or enforce it. They cannot continue to ignore it.
[[ Question:
It’s my understanding that Jindal is not qualified as a natural born citizen to be POTUS. How in the world can he run as a VP? ]]
Answer:
He can’t.
[[ Or, are we just ignoring the Constitution the way the Democrats are? ]]
Answer:
Yes.
“If obama is the recent precedent, does that mean that all future Presidents could ‘legally’ hide - delete - all records about themselves?”
Where in the Constitution does it say you get any/all documents for Potus candidates, that you personally demand?
I don’t like Obama, but the birther stuff has gone absolutely nowhere. (That in part because it employed a legal scattergun approach and Orly Tatiz as counsel)
NBC is NOT defined in the Constitution. The American voters picked him, knowing his father was not American.
There is writing, including entries to the Congretional Record, that NBC equals native born citizen, fyi. And that carries every bit as much legal weight as Emerich de Vattel.
Right now the priority SHOULD BE getting him out in the November election. Time/words/resources wasted elsewhere are wasted.
I’m the practical, pragmatic type who wants results.
Just the make-believe part.
The HID0H has released an abstract of information on file in their archives indicating that both of these men were possibly born in Hawaii, or possibly could have been born in Hawaii, and/or would have been born in Hawaii, had either set of their respective non-citizen parental units ever heard of Hawaii.
In any case, this digital data can be used with any number of graphics programs to create something that at a cursory glance, looks like sort of some kind of a Hawaiian Birth Certificate. According to the latest interpretations of the US Constitution, possible birth in Hawaii or equivalent, is proof of "Natural Born Citizenship."
This legal doctrine, "The Hawaiian Woulda-Shoulda-Coulda" (aka "The Honolulu Shuffle") theory of constitutional interpretation has been pioneered by Team Obama. As you may know, although our POTUS had his license to practice law suspended for lying on his Bar App, he is still a world famous constitutional scholar, professor, raconteur, and bon vivant extraordinaire.
So, bucko, get with the program. Aloha!
“I’m going to go ahead and trust constitutional scholars like Mark Levin on this, and ignore the birther brigades who lose in court over and over and over and over again.”
Longbow, I always enjoy your posts as a voice of reason above the din.
But...
Let’s consider for a moment...
Suppose, just suppose, a couple from Mexico sneak across the border. The woman has her baby in an American hospital, then the couple goes back across the border to Mexico. Their child is raised “as a Mexican”. Yet all he has to do after age 18 is walk into the American embassy, present his birth certificate, and claim his American citizenship, which will be granted to him as an adult. He can then go back to being a Mexican, until, around age 30, he returns to the United States, AS A NATURAL-BORN CITIZEN. Preposterous as it may seem, he could then run for president, meeting all the “Constitutional requirements”, even though he had never lived “in country” until a year or two previous.
As unlikely a scenario as this may seem, I predict such a scenario will occur later in this century. It may not be a Mexican, but it will happen. A “boutique baby”, of Chinese parents, perhaps?
And the amazing thing is, there wil be nothing which distinguishes the birth of this Mexican or Chinese baby from a Bobby Jindal or a Marco Rubio. Any and all of them were born to non-citizen parents while on American soil.
That’s why the “natural born citizen” issue must be resolved (probably by the Supreme Court). It’s a bomb waiting to go off. Perhaps it’s already blown, with Obama....
I think it’s going to be Newt.
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Jindal and Santorum would definitely get more conservatives to vote for Romney.
He seems to be the right choice.
Virginia which went Blue is coming back red. This would seal Virginia to Rep. Also coattail in Mccaca into a Senate seat.
I rely on MY OWN brain and research. Cases are mostly NOT HEARD in court. It is just more evidence how corrupt our courts are.
Unfortunately neither of his parents were citizens at the time he was born (in Baton Rouge).
Neither Jindal nor Rubio are NBC. Great where they are but not eligible for VPOTUS or POTUS.
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