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Are Baby Boomers Stealing Jobs from the Young? (Part 1)
Townhall.com ^ | May 12, 2012 | Political Calculations

Posted on 05/12/2012 6:28:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: cripplecreek
Make that two votes for Obama then because I’m not voting for a republican candidate to the left of Bill Clinton either.

BTW you clowns really need to come up with a new line.

Amen!

They need some new material. I have a few ideas but won't give them any new ammo. Every time I see that "not voting for romney is the same as voting for obama" I wanna barf. Get something original people! Something that means something.

But no matter what they come up with, I don't vote for liberals.

I voted republican all my voting life until 2010 when here in Illinois the party put up Mark Kirk as their Senate candidate, his voting record as a congressman was more liberal than most democrats. I voted for the Libertarian candidate in that election. At least he was pro life and heterosexual. Kirk won despite my vote against him but I sure felt good about voting my conscience.

101 posted on 05/12/2012 9:09:45 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Someone finally noticed what I’ve been saying for a long, long time. Boomers are screwing everyone else over.”

Really? REALLY?

Or is it that when someone hires a Boomer, they get someone who comes to work to actually work, not just show up and expect a pay check?

Maybe it’s because Boomers have work ethics missing from the pampered trophy-for-participation crowd.


102 posted on 05/12/2012 9:13:58 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: nodumbblonde
I would guess they’ve also taken quite a hit with their portfolios and aren’t in the financial shape they thought they would be in at this point in their lives.

Yep. My "Greatest Generation" grandfather quit working in the mid-1970s, able to fund a comfortable 30-year retirement on the rising values of his stock and real estate investments until passing away in 2005. Forty years of selling insurance afforded him 30 years of playing golf. There were millions his age who were able to do the same thing.

Not so for their boomer offspring. They work not because they want to but because they have to. They have little saved and little invested. They've taken on additional mortgages on homes that should have long ago been paid off. They've seen their paltry investments crumble and, in many cases, they've had to support children who can't find jobs that don't require wearing a name tag while trying to pay off student loans that cost as much as a house.

Most of human history showed that we worked until we dropped. The "Greatest Generation" was able to avoid this but it looks like we are returning to what has always been the norm.

103 posted on 05/12/2012 9:25:04 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Black_Shark

Please explain your job qualifications. Maybe some us us older FReepers have been in the same boat and can help point you in the right direction. No insult intended, just FRiendly advice..... :)


104 posted on 05/12/2012 9:44:31 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: JCBreckenridge
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neener neener neener


105 posted on 05/12/2012 9:44:35 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Kaslin

“Free trade” is stealing jobs from all Americans.

Everything else, is partisan bickering.


106 posted on 05/12/2012 9:46:57 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Educated ambitious Boomers are stealing jobs from ignorant, lazy young people? How terrible is that! Go Boomers!!!


107 posted on 05/12/2012 9:57:26 AM PDT by abclily
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To: FrogMom

“they get someone who comes to work to actually work, not just show up and expect a pay check?”

Oh sure - they’ll eventually pay you, but actually hire you for a position? I’ve just had contract work and it’s pulling teeth to get them to actually pay for work done.

I have quite a few delinquent clients, folks who have gotten the work they asked for and haven’t paid. The younger folks are pretty good about paying you back because they understand, but boomer clients? I’ve got one who owes me 2 grand for work done in October. And I’m the deadbeat?


108 posted on 05/12/2012 9:59:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Clara Lou
Are baby-boomers “stealing jobs,”

No, it is much more likely that they are the last ones fired due to union rules and age discrimination laws. They are also less likely to have child care problems and multiple family members requiring excessive insurance usage.

109 posted on 05/12/2012 10:01:14 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Graybeard58

He’s prolife and doesn’t support gay marriage. Enough for me. Romney has had every position, and Obama supports gay marriage and abortion.


110 posted on 05/12/2012 10:01:56 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: EBH

“No sympathy here JC. I moved out of my parent’s home at age 18. I lived in a basement efficiency apartment for the first 2 years, ate off of paper-plates and reused plastic utensils, rode the bus an hour one way to get to a part-time day job, then an hour back to get to the evening part-time job.”

Yeah 2 years. Gosh, that’s so tough. I’ve had 12 like that.

“Put myself through community college without financial aid or student loans.”

As did I.

“So yea, 3 part time jobs for 2 years. When was this prosperous time in my life? The late 1970’s and early 1980’s.”

And boomers think they have it so hard having to struggle for 2 years.

“You want my opportunities, now?”

Absolutely. If you had to suffer for two years before getting full employment, I would trade that for an instant.

Like I said, your two years has been 12 for me. You want to walk in my shoes, have them.


111 posted on 05/12/2012 10:05:05 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: RegulatorCountry
People between the ages of 50-65 have less likely hood of insurance usage. They g=do not have children that break there legs and require regular doctor care. Most people over fifty require a simple yearly check up or an odd out patient surgery. most have fewer family members living at home.

Also, most are higher in the pecking order and the last to be let go do to the age discrimination laws and union rules.

A trip through a union manufacturing plant like Ford or Boeing is like a trip to an old age home. Almost no one is under the age of fifty and those that are have been hired since the reorganizations and make half the pay and are the first to be let go.

112 posted on 05/12/2012 10:07:27 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: LSAggie

“Drivng a wedge between the generations is not helpful.”

Grandfathering people is what is driving a wedge in the first place. Entitlements for thee and not for me.

Real pension reform would involve getting the pensions on a sustainable basis, getting people (especially in public service), to pay 50 percent of their contributions.

Rather then fix the system, they’d rather crash the system, so long as they get theirs. I have a real problem with that, but the benefit is that the folks behind us, won’t have to deal with the bloated system we have today. Because it will be utterly destroyed.


113 posted on 05/12/2012 10:07:46 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Clara Lou

“Are baby-boomers “stealing jobs,” or are they 1)showing up on time 2)consistently 3)with tasks/projects completed on time? Do they 4)have experience and knowledge that the younger set has not yet accumulated? 5)Do they text or do Facebook all day long?”

Or showing up for interviews in flip flops and tongue piercings? Complaining and calling in sick from playing video games all night?


114 posted on 05/12/2012 10:08:25 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: cripplecreek

It is not that more boomers are being hired. It is that fewer are being laid off in the first place.


115 posted on 05/12/2012 10:08:42 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Sorry kid, but if you’ve been struggling for twelve years then I would say that you have not prepared yourself adequately for life.


116 posted on 05/12/2012 10:09:01 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
I’ve got one who owes me 2 grand for work done in October...

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You do work without any up-front payment and without vetting the person to whom you are giving your labor?

117 posted on 05/12/2012 10:12:33 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: patriotsoul

“Believe me, the older generation will support EVERY SINGLE younger who has the heart to be the caretaker of this great nation.”

Which is why you’re nominating Romney in opposition to Obama? I see just the opposite. Boomers are doing everything they can to destroy america while they can, and leaving us to foot the bill. Kick the can down the road. Oh, sure, they say they’ll support the younguns who believe in fiscal conservativism and social conservativism, but that’s not true for what they do.

I’ve been fighting for years, and you want to know the people that give me the most trouble? It’s not my peers. My peers are more amenable to the message. It’s the boomers.

You guys had a chance to nominate one of your own who does support us younguns. That was Rick Santorum. And rather then support him, you tossed him aside for Romney. And I’m supposed to believe that you are trying to help us?! I don’t see it.

What I see is a national debt that is run up higher, month after month, and that is going to cripple the nation. And what are boomers doing about it? Are they doing what they can do? No. Not at all, they are increasing spending even more.


118 posted on 05/12/2012 10:13:38 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: albie
It is not between hiring an empty nester VS. hiring a 22 year old kid out of college.

It is between laying off the 356 year old with the spouse, three kids and the need to leave early to go to the school play while demanding that they all remain on your insurance policy.

Besides the union said the guy that hangs out in the can all day has to stay because he started four decades ago and the black guy and the woman both fill a quota.

I like that dude but damn he is white, under fifty and a man so he has to go.

119 posted on 05/12/2012 10:18:36 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: wtc911

“Sorry kid, but if you’ve been struggling for twelve years then I would say that you have not prepared yourself adequately for life.”

Well, I decided to go to school, and rather than racking up massive student loans, worked and paid for it all. That meant saving every thing I could.

Now I have my degree, and I’ve been working contract work ever since. I was hired just before Obama got elected to a full time position, and let go 6 months in, right at the height of the great recession.

It’s been part time and contract work ever since.

Things are different now than it was for you, but what would you understand? You’ve never had to deal with it. The one thing I am thankful for is that I’m debt free. Just need the job to go with it.


120 posted on 05/12/2012 10:18:47 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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