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To: turn_to; Graybeard58; BlackElk; sagar; blueunicorn6; JediJones; Antoninus; Lazlo in PA; writer33; ..
129 posted on Sat May 12 2012 17:33:05 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by turn_to: “So a man and woman, husband and wife, can’t have anal or oral sex because it doesn’t produce babies? Is that what you are saying?”

Have we degenerated so far in the conservative movement that I need to be explaining on a conservative website why normal people don't do that stuff?

Put bluntly, the parts don't fit. If you like packing fudge with your wife, please don't tell us about it. That stuff, just like Bill Clinton's escapades with Monica Lewinski, quite literally makes me want to vomit. It shouldn't be discussed in public, but our society has gotten so bad that it has become acceptable in too many circles.

By the way, deviant sexual intercourse such as that used to be illegal, and it scandalized the Congress not that many years ago when a Mafia girlfriend, when asked in a Congressional hearing why she was liked by Mafiosi, said the reason why was that she gave good oral sex (using different words, of course).

I've got bigger things to worry about than criminalizing private activities between husbands and wives and I prefer to keep the focus on promoting marriage, which **IS** key to preserving society by transmitting cultural values from one generation to another. However, things like anal and oral sex ought not even to be discussed in places where people aren't perverts.

Let's remember that things could be a lot worse than they are in the modern American conservative movement. Imagine what it would be like to be in France, where

1) the moderate conservative is a multiple adulterer now married to a woman with her own serious moral problems,
2) the right-wing candidate is a woman who has been divorced twice and is now openly living with a man to whom she is not married, and
3) the Socialist who just won the presidency dumped his ex-live-in girlfriend shortly after she lost the presidential campaign in the last election for a new live-in girlfriend who he hasn't yet bothered to marry, either.

That's where we're going if we keep being forced to choose between the lesser of two evils.

What would I do if I were a conservative patriotic Christian in France? I have no idea. What scares me is I have absolutely no doubt that a hundred years ago, any reasonably conservative American looking at our current American presidential candidates would have been just as disgusted as we are today looking at the French candidates for their presidency today. The frog and kettle seem to be boiling rather warmly now.

140 posted on 05/12/2012 5:36:55 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

If you knew those Frenchies you wouldn’t want to marry any of them either.


149 posted on 05/13/2012 4:24:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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