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To: SecAmndmt
158 posted on Sun May 13 2012 22:50:21 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by SecAmndmt: “State level marriage laws and DOMA are important but social conservatives (I am one) need to realize that whatever moral authority we claim to have on this issue is badly undermined by our high divorce rates, no-fault divorce, fast-track divorce, and the power of the “family” law courts and attorneys in divorce and child custody. If there is a conservative movement to reform this system, to make divorce more difficult, I am not aware of it.”

We agree on divorce rates being a bad witness.

Actually there have been many efforts to address the issue of making divorce more difficult on the state and local levels. There are legal complications to the so-called “covenant marriage” concept; other steps have been taken such groups of people in some communities making “quickie” marriage more difficult by judges, justices of the peace, and others refusing to conduct marriages on the grounds that they are not trained to do premarital counseling. However, it is legally impossible to bar people from getting a quickie marriage by driving to states and jurisdictions which allow that, and that was an issue even a half-century ago with people driving across state lines.

The root problem is that we live in a culture that devalues marriage and that is causing many difficulties.

164 posted on 05/14/2012 2:48:40 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; SecAmndmt

I don’t see that divorce rates undermine man/woman marriage at all. In fact, they emphasize the difficulty for the community when families fall apart. Improperly supervised children, poverty-line children, and marginally educated children ALL testify to the BENEFITS of married parents caring for their own children based on the bonds established between caring parents and children.

THAT is why society gives small tax and other concessions to married male/female couples!

It’s not because they are “in love” or because that’s how they prefer their sexuality to be expressed.

The state has absolutely no interest in who you love, and the only interest they have in HOW you express your sexuality involves public health and the spread of STDs.

Divorce emphasizes how valuable it is for families to hang in there.


165 posted on 05/14/2012 5:15:13 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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