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How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper?
SHTF Plan ^ | 5-12-2012 | Be Informed

Posted on 05/12/2012 2:48:24 PM PDT by blam

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To: JRandomFreeper
I lived for quite a while on my prep supplies after the market crash in 2008. Disasters can be very local and very personal. It just makes sense to prepare.

No it doesn't. You simply can't prepare enough to escape the roving bands of unemployees!

In a true SHTF situation, what are you going to do when confronted by desperate parents who have to listen to the heart rending cries of their children going to bed without any Xbox or SpongeBob?

How are you going to hold off the entire state of Rhode Island when they show up at your door ready to kill for a canapé?

Sure, you talk big now, but when all the non-preppers become bullet-proof, special forces, terminators, I'm just going to sit back and laugh, because you were foolish enough to prepare for an inescapable conclusion!

361 posted on 05/13/2012 7:42:03 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Vendome

I like it. I should say “purify” as opposed to “filter” which is certainly what I mean.
Thanks.


362 posted on 05/13/2012 7:42:30 AM PDT by stanne
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To: JRandomFreeper

True about the Water Discipline, but after years of camping where I have to haul the water back the camp and now living in the Desert southwest, you learn.

Now my water storage is not my only water plan, I have filters and such so I can go out and retrieve water and clean it, but living somewhere with a serious lack of easily access able water does cause a serious concern and problems in a prepper’s plans.


363 posted on 05/13/2012 7:49:29 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

As we’ve discussed, water is my main concern as well. I have been looking into the solar pumping systems. Low flow compared to AC, but sufficient for drinking and cooking needs. Also, some claim to be able to work down to 500’.


364 posted on 05/13/2012 7:52:32 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Yardstick
Uh huh. I realize that having people beg is at the center of your fantasy.

Hah! Shows what you know!

The center of my fantasy is parting the Okeechobee, and leading my people into "The Villages!"

365 posted on 05/13/2012 7:57:02 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Tijeras_Slim

In a long term SHTF scenario the river banks here will be gang turf and a hunting zone for predators.

That’s the problem here all this beach surrounding so little water.


366 posted on 05/13/2012 7:59:14 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: VanShuyten

Re your post 246, what the hell are you talking about? I was simply trying to learn how he lived on a mountain for so long? My inquiry had nothing to do with Ted Kaczynski.

What a turn of mind, you fricking sicko!!


367 posted on 05/13/2012 8:09:44 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: papertyger
May I borrow the trowel after you are finished spreading the sarcasm. ;)

/johnny

368 posted on 05/13/2012 8:21:03 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
the river banks here will be gang turf and a hunting zone for predators.

It's good when your target bunches up for you. ;)

/johnny

369 posted on 05/13/2012 8:27:16 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: OldPossum
I built a little 8' x 12' shack out of locally available scrap materials. It was quite cozy and met all my needs. I had plenty of game and forage during most of the year, and traded out specialty work for occasional trips into town for flour, salt, tobacco, etc...

I had a little garden spot for things I needed to grow myself. And I took full advantage of local stuff. When native plums came in season, I took all I could get and made wine and preserves out of them. Same with cactus pears. Only problem with that is the guy that owned the land stopped by for a pint of wine every night after he found out about it. ;)

/johnny

370 posted on 05/13/2012 8:33:11 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bgill
I've been thinking of using canna leaves for tp in an emergency.

As a guy who makes toilet paper for a living, I can tell you that's a terrible idea. You need to stock up on several years supply.

It has been scientifically prove using toilet paper substitutes causes cellulite, irreversable brain damage, hair cancer, blindness, and hardening of the boogers.

Don't do it!

371 posted on 05/13/2012 8:34:03 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: blam

I didn’t even think of Insect Repellant. Black flies and mosquitoes are also awful at that spot too.


372 posted on 05/13/2012 8:44:02 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: DYngbld

Smart man.

You know women have been known to kill you in your sleep for not providing enough toilet paper.


373 posted on 05/13/2012 8:44:02 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: bgill
What's mind boggling is you'd think third world people would already know how to clean water, farm and preserve foods. That's basic survival skills known by mankind for eons. They should be the ones teaching those of us who have forgotten these skills. Never could understand why we've been teaching all this to them for generation after generation and they still don't get it.

See what happens when you run out of toilet paper!

374 posted on 05/13/2012 8:49:03 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: bgill
"Anyone else feeling the same? "

I've been buying hundreds of used bath/beach/dish towels at garage sales...for practically nothing. When the ladies ask what I'll do with them, I say, I use them in the shop to wipe oil etc. (and, I do that too, they're much cheaper that the 'rags' at Sam's).

LOL. I did freak one woman out when I said that I'd use them to soak up the blood on the floor of the operating room when the revolution starts. (I just did that once)

375 posted on 05/13/2012 9:02:00 AM PDT by blam
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To: FreedomPoster

Then I recommend K-var who imports Saiga rifles that have barrel lengths of 21 inches and chamber .308 (or NATO 7.62). I think there is after market 20 rd mags for it. Russian system based on the rugged AK rifle with the trigger group moved back several inches to accommodate a sport stock so it could be imported as a sporting rifle. Uses AK style side scope mount brackets that can use Weaver interface. Check it out. One of the lowest cost .308 out there. They also import bolt action rifles that use military and sporting calibers. These are copies of Mauser bolt action system and made from solid machine block in Serbia. Also very competitive price for a .308 bolt action. Check them out.


376 posted on 05/13/2012 9:03:09 AM PDT by Fee
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To: JRandomFreeper

Very interesting. You really did “live off the land,” as the phrase goes.

I cannot think of many people who could have done what you did. I don’t believe I could done it. The extent of my “woods experience” is that I once built a 12x12’ log cabin, using pines on my property (it wasn’t easy lugging those trees around but I did it). But I lack the other skills you demonstrated.

I have to assume that you had a small wood stove in your dwelling. Is that right?

How did you handle the watering of your garden? We cannot depend on Mother Nature to be consistent with rain, you know. I am thinking that you had earlier referenced a creek nearby, but man, that must have been what we call “work” to lug water to the garden.

I just remain fascinated by someone who could renounce the comforts of modern civilization and live on his own, especially for two years.


377 posted on 05/13/2012 9:22:43 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: blam
soak up the blood on the floor of the operating room when the revolution starts

LOL!

/johnny

378 posted on 05/13/2012 9:24:46 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: XenaLee

Not grounds. Just the last few ounces out of every pot, the stuff you normally just dump down the drain. I only brew drip or expresso. There are no grounds in the dregs. I store the remainders in the fridge or freezer until needed.

Actually, if I have coffee that we didn’t really care for, I will make a strong pot of it and use that to boil the beans. Cheap supermarket canned ground coffee is also a great deodorizer. I have used it to get rid of skunk odor drifting in through the windows. You just put out open containers of the dry grounds and change them often.


379 posted on 05/13/2012 9:27:55 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: OldPossum
I located the cabin near an old, abandoned well and re-opened it. First time it had been used in over 60 years, according to the locals.

And I didn't do without all creature comforts. I had some electricty from the solar panels/batteries for things like lights at night, and to run the laptop and high-speed wireless link down to the big house in the valley a half mile away. I can do without indoor plumbing, but I'm not going without my internet. ;)

/johnny

380 posted on 05/13/2012 9:28:45 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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