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To: rxsid

But he was born on US soil. How do you think those 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year to illegal alien parents get US passports, access to Medicaid, food stamps, etc.?


341 posted on 05/17/2012 1:23:43 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia, oh King Put!
349 posted on 05/17/2012 1:27:38 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: kabar
Born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia, oh King Putt!
355 posted on 05/17/2012 1:28:45 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: kabar
"But he was born on US soil.

Doesn't matter if Barry was born in the US. Just as you correctly point out that children born overseas to U.S. citizen parent(s) obtain U.S. citizenship via statue, the same goes for foreigners' children born here. They inherit their parent(s) foreign citizenship. By birthright. Unless SR. was not his legal father at birth, and even if born in the Lincoln bedroom, Barry was born a British subject. He inherited his foreign fathers foreign citizenship at birth.

How do you think those 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year to illegal alien parents get US passports, access to Medicaid, food stamps, etc.?

Via a pure, 100% bastardization of the intent of the 14th Amendment.

"Original intent of the 14th Amendment

Babies born to illegal alien mothers within U.S. borders are called anchor babies because under the 1965 immigration Act, they act as an anchor that pulls the illegal alien mother and eventually a host of other relatives into permanent U.S. residency. (Jackpot babies is another term).

The United States did not limit immigration in 1868 when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified. Thus there were, by definition, no illegal immigrants and the issue of citizenship for children of those here in violation of the law was nonexistent. Granting of automatic citizenship to children of illegal alien mothers is a recent and totally inadvertent and unforeseen result of the amendment and the Reconstructionist period in which it was ratified.

Post-Civil War reforms focused on injustices to African Americans. The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves. It was written in a manner so as to prevent state governments from ever denying citizenship to blacks born in the United States. But in 1868, the United States had no formal immigration policy, and the authors therefore saw no need to address immigration explicitly in the amendment.

In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

Supreme Court decisions

The correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment is that an illegal alien mother is subject to the jurisdiction of her native country, as is her baby.

Over a century ago, the Supreme Court appropriately confirmed this restricted interpretation of citizenship in the so-called "Slaughter-House cases" [83 US 36 (1873) and 112 US 94 (1884)]13. In the 1884 Elk v.Wilkins case12, the phrase "subject to its jurisdiction" was interpreted to exclude "children of ministers, consuls, and citizens of foreign states born within the United States." In Elk, the American Indian claimant was considered not an American citizen because the law required him to be "not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance."

The Court essentially stated that the status of the parents determines the citizenship of the child. To qualify children for birthright citizenship, based on the 14th Amendment, parents must owe "direct and immediate allegiance" to the U.S. and be "completely subject" to its jurisdiction. In other words, they must be United States citizens. "

And it continues.

Because of a liberal bastardization of the meaning and intent of the 14th Amendment, children born here to FOREIGNERS who aren't even DOMOCILED here and who happen to be here ILLEGALLY, are currently afforded citizenship. It's wrong. It was never meant to be that way, and is yet another wrong that needs to be righted.

385 posted on 05/17/2012 1:44:53 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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