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Romney unveils debut general-election TV ad [Day One]
The Hill ^ | MAY 17, 2012 | Justin Sink

Posted on 05/18/2012 6:17:34 AM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: Sirius Lee
You can't say that you're supporting Mitt and then claim that you're not a Mitt supporter. If you support Mitt or Obama then you support Mitt or Obama. They support gays, gun control, abortion, big spending and big government. If you vote for these two clowns, then you support their mission. You don't get one without the other. It is axiomatic.

OK wise one - what's your game plan to prevent Obama from finishing the job he set out to do?

If all you can do is attack, and not have a cogent plan, that takes Obama out of the WH, then your nothing more than a "community organizer", who is willing to let the Republic be destroyed instead of giving it a small chance of eventual recovery...it's "axiomatic".

I detest that Romney is going to be Obama's opponent, but I'm not willing to destroy myself when I can limit the damage. If you were a chicken, would you vote for a chiuahua over a fox, or would you condemn the chiuahua and ensure the fox gained control? Sorry to say it, but that's the "choice" we have.

All these solutionless attacks on Romney do is close the circle of the firing squad. Unless someone has a solution, they need to think about the ramifications from all sides and decide on which set of ramifications produce the least amount of additional damage. Else we might as well write a suicide letter saying "I'm sick and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils so I decided to bare my throat the my deadliest enemy and let him have his way - goodbye cruel world". Maybe they'll put a drawing of a fox holding a chicken by the neck on your tombstone.

41 posted on 05/18/2012 9:09:55 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Oh, no, now you have blown our cover. They will know there could NEVER have been any other explanation for not genuflecting before Mittens. Have you heard from Muhammed el Kaboomski? Watch your back! The chair is against the door. The clam flies at midnite!!!

May you and yours be blessed!

42 posted on 05/18/2012 9:13:10 AM PDT by BlackElk (Romney = Obama = Moloch = Obama = Romney = Moloch = Romney = Obama, Etc.)
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To: Salvation

God bless you and yours, ma’am for this post and for everything you do here, have done and will do!


43 posted on 05/18/2012 9:18:52 AM PDT by BlackElk (Romney = Obama = Moloch = Obama = Romney = Moloch = Romney = Obama, Etc.)
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To: Sirius Lee

“you would be more comfortable going someplace that isn’t a Conservative website”

Who do you want to be president in 2012, Romney or Obama?


44 posted on 05/18/2012 9:25:15 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: BlackElk; Sirius Lee; EternalVigilance
Odd how those who boast loudest about being "Reagan Style Conservatives" seem to know absolutely nothing about the man they claim to follow. The enemy of my enemy is not my enemy. Rather then spending all your time shooting your own in the back, maybe you might want to try one time focusing your fire on your real enemies.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.”

45 posted on 05/18/2012 9:33:36 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: BlackElk
Someday, we will again have POTUS elections. Until then, we should resist and organize. A choice between Stalin and Hitler or between Caligula and Diocletian is no choice at all.

That is the pure, distilled truth of what we're facing here. Real Americans have been effectively frozen out of the presidential election process. There is NO CHOICE for us, except RESISTANCE.

46 posted on 05/18/2012 10:04:22 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MNJohnnie; BlackElk; Sirius Lee
The problem with Romney Republicans is that they don't know the difference between the stuff that can be negotiated and fought for over time and what should always be non-negotiable for any decent American.

Do you have any principle left that is beyond negotiation and not open to compromise?

Time to bring back this tagline I guess...

47 posted on 05/18/2012 11:01:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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To: trebb; Sirius Lee
Your problem is that you define everything via the blindered world of your apparent one and only political goal: ABO. Sure, Obozo is a world-class disgrace but so is Romney. You just want the comfort of telling yourself that Romney is somehow better. When I was about 14 and the only child of generally Democrat factory workers, I thought I should be Republican because Nelson Rockefeller was a Republican and he was RICH and I wanted to be RICH too. I grew up by 16 and realized that like one affluent great uncle, one combat veteran Marine first cousin and one or two other extended family members, rational people are conservatives and Republicans. I have generally moved rightward ever since as has my entire and large extended family and they live in liberal Connecticut.

Now we have come to a point in history when, for me, it is as impossible for a serious Catholic to be a knee-jerk Republican as it has long been to be a Demonrat. Nominating a privileged serial liar and proven persecutor of my Catholic Faith like Romney frees me from the GOP. I don't really give a crap if Obozo taxes the Megabucks crowd (maybe they'll have less money to waste on burying social conservatives, Catholics, serious Christians, morally committed Jews and other patriots as they did in this year's primaries since we are just SUCH an embarrassment) while Romney will, above all, protect the trust funds and minimize the tax rates of the really BIG shots. I'm not a big shot. That does nothing for me.

Both Obozo and Romney are the political equivalent of flesh-eating bacteria. Welcome to RINO World.

But that means nothing to you since you are single-mindedly obsessed with teaching Obozo and the Demonrats a lesson once and for all. So Romney just HAS to be acceptable regardless of all the baggage we all know about whether we admit it or not. [Here, you should click the heels of your ruby red slippers together three times and repeat over and over again: There's no place like home! And, ummm, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.]

OK, smart guy, what's YOUR plan to prevent Romney from "finishing the job" Obozo set out to do? That's exactly what he will do if given the chance. In Massachusetts, he pledged to be more gay friendly and more committed to abortion than Ted Kennedy and, presto, in an unprecedented move, he kept his word as babykiller and lavender enabler and was a social revolutionary in every way, no matter what cheap opportunistic lies he tells now.

That Romney seems rather likely to be nominated against Obozo is what threatens the republic. Maybe we can rebuild on the nuked ruins. Maybe not. Neither of them is a chihuahua and neither is a fox. Both are (politically) starving tigers yearning to munch your liver. Face facts. Each of them would destroy this nation ferociously and with equal gusto, unless you believe that Muffy's trust fund IS our nation in which case, may God bless you and keep you far, far from traffic.

The cogent plan you seek is a cogent plan to achieve YOUR goal of ABO which serious conservatives do NOT share. That you raise this is no more sensible than asking Obozo his plan to make the US a world-dominating power again, his plan to give tax relief to the zillionaires, his plan to end abortion and "gay" everything and his plan for ammunition stamps for the poor so that they may better exercise the RTKBA.

Da*n straight that all we do is attack. That's all either of them deserve. As a matter of fact, I also plead guilty to being a "community organizer" and it is obvious that the time has come to organize again as we did for Reagan. I was also a Reagan state chairman in 1976 for that very reason. Obozo gives the term "community organizer" a bad name. Nowadays, he "organizes" Mahthuh's Vineyahd from the 16th hole. As Saul Alinsky would tell Obozo, REAL community organizers organize ordinary folks and humiliate the privileged. It's in our DNA.

Now, let's translate your position into English:

When babies are slaughtered in the next four years, they must be slaughtered by a RINO POTUS's indifference or active hostility.

When guns are grabbed, they must be grabbed by RINOs.

When Adam lusts after Steve's anus and wants to call it "sex" much less "marriage," that must be blessed by a RINO POTUS.

Repeat as necessary on as many issues as you need to figure out Myth Romney for the flesh eating bacteria and leftist shapeshifter that he truly is.

VOTE FOR MITT!!! He may be a sliver better on an issue or two or maybe not. Now isn't that a war to fight??? I don't think so.

48 posted on 05/18/2012 11:07:17 AM PDT by BlackElk (Romney = Obama = Moloch = Obama = Romney = Moloch = Romney = Obama, Etc.)
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To: BlackElk

49 posted on 05/18/2012 11:23:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: MNJohnnie; Sirius Lee
Sirius Lee has been here since 2/6/12.

MNJohnnie since 2/18/04

Black Elk since 1/6/00

So what?

50 posted on 05/18/2012 12:15:14 PM PDT by BlackElk (Romney = Obama = Moloch = Obama = Romney = Moloch = Romney = Obama, Etc.)
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To: MNJohnnie; Yashcheritsiy; Sirius Lee

MNJohnnie:

Whazzamattah, bunkie? Are those mean old conservatives refusing to guzzle the Romney Kool Aid? Refusing to make believe Romney is relevantly different from Obozo on any important issue whatsoever? Feeling lonely out there, bunkie? Wait ‘til November as the weather turns colder and you are out there all by yourself! “WAAAAAAHHH! (you will scream). Da*n it! OUR Progressive Fascist is better than THEIR Progressive Fascist! Is too!”


51 posted on 05/18/2012 12:26:39 PM PDT by BlackElk (Romney = Obama = Moloch = Obama = Romney = Moloch = Romney = Obama, Etc.)
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To: cymbeline

My answer to your question is NEITHER! See tagline.


52 posted on 05/18/2012 12:30:04 PM PDT by BlackElk (Romney = Obama = Moloch = Obama = Romney = Moloch = Romney = Obama, Etc.)
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To: svcw
Replace is not the same as repeal, Romney said he would repeal obamaCare.

A president cannot repeal a law. Congress would have to pass a bill repealing Obamacare, and Romney would have to sign it. It's not likely that either of those things would happen.

53 posted on 05/18/2012 12:30:58 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: EternalVigilance; BlackElk; Sirius Lee

Odd how emotionally unstable some of you people get when the facts refute your political dogmas. That is a personality trait normally only found in the most rabid Leftist. Conservatives are suppose to be driven by reason, not emotions.


54 posted on 05/18/2012 12:43:09 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: BlackElk

Thank you BlackElk for your thoughtful and intelligent analysis.


55 posted on 05/18/2012 1:20:32 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God..."There I said it" ... Great One...)
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To: MNJohnnie; EternalVigilance; BlackElk; Sirius Lee

So MNJ you addressed to EternalVigilance, BlackElk and Sirius Lee for post #1, which doesn’t say anything, I am curious - what are you talking about here?


56 posted on 05/18/2012 1:46:09 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Strange you should say that, since one of the marks of the sane is the ability to make distinctions. For example, we could compromise over what to have for dinner. But it would be crazy to compromise over whether or not you should pull the trigger on the .45 you have aimed at my forehead. Romney Republicans, sadly, have lost the ability to know the difference.


57 posted on 05/18/2012 1:52:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Odd how emotionally unstable some of you people get when the facts refute your political dogmas. That is a personality trait normally only found in the most rabid Leftist. Conservatives are suppose to be driven by reason, not emotions.

My only "political dogma" is this:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..." -- The Declaration of Independence

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." -- The Preamble, or Statement of Purpose, of the United States Constitution

Please point to the "facts" or "reason" you have offered to refute this.

The charge you make of emotionalism on my part is just silly.

58 posted on 05/18/2012 2:06:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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To: MNJohnnie
I note that my question put to you in post #47 remains unanswered.

Do you have any principle left that is beyond negotiation and not open to compromise?

Hmmm...why is that?

59 posted on 05/18/2012 2:13:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Back at ‘ya!


60 posted on 05/18/2012 3:27:03 PM PDT by BlackElk (Romney = Obama = Moloch = Obama = Romney = Moloch = Romney = Obama, Etc.)
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