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To: rmlew; BlackElk; Steve Schulin; Gelato
The formerly grand old party is not dying because of demographics. It is dying because it has abandoned principle.

The foundational principles of this nation have not a thing to do with skin-tone or ethnicity. Quite the contrary.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL MEN are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..."

15 posted on 05/18/2012 4:55:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: Leave your principles by the door. You won't be needing them any more.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Remember this part of the Declaration of Independence
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
Or what about this from the US Constitution:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I am not suggesting that only people of the Founding population can be good Americans. I am Jewish and the son of immigrants. But becomming a true American, accepting our culture, tradition, and mores is no small matter. And it is becomming harder because of numbers and liberalism. Plenty of South American republics modeled their constitutions on ours. It didn't work out.

26 posted on 05/18/2012 5:08:01 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: EternalVigilance

Lack of principles certainly doesn’t help, but demographics are a huge part of it.

As to the founding, well maybe those principles don’t have anything inherently to do with ethnicity, but the fact is that the founders weren’t a very diverse group ethnically speaking. And we haven’t seen anything like it spring up outside of other lands settled by the British.

The fact is that conservative, limited-government principles appeal mostly to whites. I don’t know why that is, but it’s a fantasy to think that an increasingly non-white nation is going to embrace the (now) very conservative principles of our Founding and our Constitution.


63 posted on 05/18/2012 8:11:09 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: EternalVigilance

“”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL MEN are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men...””

A great dream that was.
But it was only a dream.

Jefferson’s platitudes crumble in the onslaught of millions who are ethnically different from the small circle of men who surrounded him when he penned The Declaration.

It seemed a bold and noble idea, back in the day when common but bright men were struggling to free themselves of a European culture that had been based upon the Divine Right of Kings. What better way than to create an egalitarian paradigm which professed that no longer would there be kings, because all men were “equal”?

But as inspired as egalitarianism seems, it flies in the face of reality. And it is reality which conservatism must be founded upon, not blind idealism.

To insist on doing so when a simple look around reveals a truth and a future that can not be ignored or wished away, is a fool’s errand.


69 posted on 05/18/2012 9:54:49 PM PDT by Road Glide
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