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To: Sola Veritas; Innovative; netmilsmom; unkus; altura
We should focus entirely on getting conservatives elected to the House and Senate in 2012 & 2014 and no longer worry about the presidential election.

Surrender by any other name or phrase is still surrender.

This is the 4th time you have endorsed surrender in the Presidential election on this thread.

We'll remember that when we win.

You are welcome to surrender and to bend the knee to Obama in 2012.

We'll remember that when we win.


217 posted on 05/23/2012 10:56:19 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Agamemnon

Very good.


218 posted on 05/23/2012 11:18:29 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Agamemnon

We absolutely CANNOT let BO have another four years.

There won’t be any conservative movement left. People need to talk to anyone from a Former Soviet ruled country to hear the stories of how it all happened.


219 posted on 05/23/2012 12:08:00 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Agamemnon; Innovative; netmilsmom; unkus; altura

“This is the 4th time you have endorsed surrender in the Presidential election on this thread.”

In the army will called it economy of force. You use your forces were they will do the most good.

It is not surrender, in my view, because I consider voting for Romney to be surrendering to GOPe Tyranny and continued liberals and rascals representing the conservatives of the GOP. So, in my view, you are surrendering to the GOPe to vote for Romney.

Like I wrote another person on this forum. Do you really think the GOPe has your best interests and values at heart? Do you really want them to continue to foist undesireables like Romney on the conservative base of the party? Is that what you think is in your best interests? I don’t think it is in mine. Romney doesn’t remotely represent my values or views....he is a country club GOPe elite and answers to the Salt Lake Mafia as well. It doesn’t get much worse than that. Plus, he literally bought this primary. Is that in your best interests?

So, as I see it, we have two serious enemies to conservatism. Obama - the very obvious enemy. And the GOPe and its flawed candidate Romney. Both are to be opposed.

Answer a series of simple questions. OTHER than being the GOPe candidate running against Obama, does Romney represent your values and interests? Do you agree with Romney’s views and record as governor of Mass? Can you really support Romney knowing how flawed he is? Does Romney represent you or the GOPe? Don’t dodge, but answer the questions honestly.

You stated you understood Mr. Robinson’s principled stand. Why can’t you understand that he just cannot support or vote for Romney because he does NOT represent conservative views & values. Not even close.

That is it. You have surrendered to the GOPe’s continued rule over the future of the GOP when you let them foist Romney on you. You “may” see him beat Obama. But as I have said, does Romney trully represent your values and views? What victory is there in him being POTUS? If you are a conservative, YOU LOSE WITH ROMNEY AS WELL AS OBAMA.

Well, whatever, we have gone in circles over and over. Nothing has been resolved, only irritation or worse has come about.

I am going to make a confession here. Although, as I have said, my disgust for Romney is greater than my fear of Obama. Should Romney actually win, I will probably feel some temporary “relief” because I do fear Obama and four more years of him. However, I know in my soul, that this relief won’t last long. Down the road all that voted for Romney because the feared Obama so, will regret putting Romney in office. I sincerely hope I am wrong though. I think I am right on this issue, but I don’t want to be if Romney should be elected. I don’t want conservatism set back. I don’t want the GOPe to continue to rule.

I guess ultimately, it is want your side and my side fear the most that drives our actions. History and time will tell. I hope I am wrong, should Romney be elected. Should Obama be reelected, I hope I am right that congress with increased numbers from NOV we be able to neuter him.

At this point, I don’t see any further use in us discussing the issue. I know you cannot resist having the last word...so go for it.


222 posted on 05/23/2012 4:52:29 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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