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The Zimmerman case disintegrates
humanevents.com ^ | 21 May, 2012 | John Hayward

Posted on 05/22/2012 5:35:29 AM PDT by marktwain

The release of evidence in George Zimmerman’s murder trial quickly made a mockery of his second-degree murder charges, and threw a further layer of shame upon media and political opportunists who misrepresented a tragic, but fairly straightforward, case of lethal force employed in self-defense.

It is remarkable to take stock of this evidence and realize that it supports every single aspect of Zimmerman’s statement to the police. His injuries are consistent with his account of physical assault by Trayvon Martin. Martin’s gunshot wound occurred at the very short range described by Zimmerman, demolishing fantasies about a racist mall-cop wannabe stalking and murdering an innocent black kid for no reason.

The Smoking Gun highlighted this bit of eyewitness testimony – released to the public by the Sanford police only a few days ago, but known to the prosecution when Zimmerman was charged – tendered to the police only 90 minutes after the shooting occurred, by a resident of Zimmerman’s community who heard the altercation and decided to investigate:

The man recalled seeing “a black male, wearing a dark colored ‘hoodie’ on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help.” The black male, he added, “was mounted on the white or Hispanic male and throwing punches ‘MMA (mixed martial arts) style.'”

The witness--who was in his living room and about 30 feet away from the confrontation-- said he called out to the two men that he was dialing 911. “He then heard a ‘pop,’” police reported, and saw the black male “laid out on the grass.”

Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit relates the discovery of video from Trayvon Martin’s YouTube account, removed at some point during the last month, that shows he was actually involved in some sort of underground “fight club.”

Also fatal to the prosecution’s case is the discovery that Martin had THC in his system – he had apparently been smoking pot that night. As related by the local CBS News affiliate:

According to the autopsy report made public record by the Office of the Medial Examiner, the blood from Martin’s chest contained 1.5 ng/ML of THC, a drug commonly found in marijuana. There was about 7.3ng/mL of THC carboxy, the by-product of the body’s metabolism of THC.

Depending on the amount of THC consumed and the frequency in which it is consumed, THC carboxy can stay in a person’s system from somewhere between two weeks to a month, according to WBTV. THC itself can stay in the body for as long as four hours.

This is important because the charging document clearly, and without evidence, accuses Zimmerman of racially “profiling” Martin. On the other hand, Zimmerman told the 911 dispatcher that Martin caught his eye because “this guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something… it’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.” Only then did the dispatcher specifically ask about Martin’s race, and request a description of his clothing.

Despite the prosecution’s awareness of the autopsy reports and eyewitness testimony, they included none of it in their affidavit against Zimmerman. Criminal lawyer and Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz, who has been beside himself ever since the Zimmerman charges were filed, writes in the New York Daily News that it’s time to drop the charges, but doubts State Attorney Angela Corey “will do the right thing,” because “until now, her actions have been anything but ethical, lawful, and professional.”

As Dershowitz points out, the evidence released in this case means Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law isn’t even a factor in Zimmerman’s defense. Much political hay has been made out of this law, but if Zimmerman was on the ground getting beaten to a pulp, withdrawal from the encounter was physically impossible for him. “A defendant, under Florida law, loses his ‘stand your ground’ defense if he provoked the encounter,” observes Dershowitz, “but he retains traditional self-defense if he reasonably believed his life was in danger and his only recourse was to employ deadly force.”

For that matter, as Dershowitz notes, there is not one shred of evidence to support the prosecutor’s contention that Zimmerman provoked the encounter. Neighborhood Watch patrols are not illegal. There is no evidence that Zimmerman shouted any “fighting words” at Martin.

Dershowitz also mentions a suspicion I’ve harbored since the weird, circus-like press conference at which Corey announced the charges: they’re a political instrument designed to buy time for everyone to cool down, leading to a long trial that dismantles some of the hysteria built up around the Trayvon Martin case. If true, the strategy is understandable… but utterly outrageous. The United States does not do “show trials.” The justice system is not a safety valve for releasing unhealthy levels of political tension. Individual citizens are not pawns to be shoved around in media games by gun-control advocates, race hustlers, or opportunistic politicians. The purpose of law enforcement is to protect the public, not appease certain segments of it.

State attorney Angela Corey responded by saying, “What the general public has to remember, and the media has to remember, is that there is a lot we cannot release by law.” Zimmerman’s lawyer also cautiously conceded that more evidence may be in prosecutorial hands, as yet unreleased to either him or the public.

That doesn’t change the virtually indisputable fact that Corey deliberately suppressed evidence helpful to Zimmerman when her affidavit was written. At best, that’s very sloppy work. ABC News discusses the sort of cards Corey might be holding:

One key to the case is which of the two men instigated the clash that left Martin dead. The prosecution says Zimmerman initiated the altercation when he "profiled" Martin that night, and then got out of his car to follow him. In the newly released documents, lead homicide officer on the case, Chris Serino of the Sanford Police Department, called the shooting "avoidable" had Zimmerman remained in his vehicle.

What has yet to be seen are two main pieces of evidence: Zimmerman's statement on the night of the incident, and his reenactment of the events of that night, which could prove vital when and if the case is heard in court.

It’s difficult to see how any of that might convince a jury to hand down a “guilty” verdict to Murder Two charges. How does that “stay in your car” principle work? Do you have to stay in your car when you see anyone acting suspiciously in your neighborhood, or do the age, sex, and racial background of the subject matter? Does everyone have to stay in their cars, or only members of certain age, sex, and racial groups?

Or is it simpler for the law to assert that beating someone into the ground and administering an MMA-style thrashing is wrong, even if they looked at you funny?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Gilbo_3

Don’t get on my case about it by quoting something from the code.

The authorities have the code, too.

You can read it, but you can’t bring an official legal case as a citizen. You have to have a duly constituted government official bring a case.

You can complain, you can tell a prosecutor’s office your situation and you can show them something written in a code. You don’t have the authority, power, to force them to initiate an official legal proceeding, and you yourself can’t do that.

You can file civil lawsuits.

A lawsuit would not be taken up by the judge it was filed with, until your case as a criminal defendant was over.

That’s reality.

Sorry you don’t like it.

I had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

I just reported what it is.


41 posted on 05/22/2012 1:18:33 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette; OneWingedShark; Gilbo_3
The question was, could Zimmerman himself set in motion a prosecution of people who have done him wrong. He cannot. Nobody can do that.

When were citizens deprived of the right to file criminal complaints? That is a major reordering of our justice system.

42 posted on 05/22/2012 1:19:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: txrangerette
the only *case* i got on was that of a condescending answer of 'realityville' to a simple question, which BTW, "Thank You" for taking the time to finally answer in yer last post...8^}

i guess i shouldve just asked if Zimm had 'standing' to file such, and it wouldve been a yes/no answer instead of an attempt to belittle an ally with smartassed comments that didnt answer the question...

43 posted on 05/22/2012 1:24:17 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: marktwain

Martin smoked marijuana...that explains the Skiddles.


44 posted on 05/22/2012 1:27:47 PM PDT by hoe_cake ( Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution)
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To: TigersEye; Gilbo_3

I’m not going to waste my time arguing with you, tiger eye.

In my post #41 above, I mention that you can complain to a prosecutor’s office.

The bottom line is you cannot bring down a prosecution on the head of your prosecutor by some kind of insistence or force of law. You can’t make them do anything.

A duly constituted other public official could take action if they chose to against that person.

The judge also has wide discretion within law and precedent to deal with a prosecutor in the ongoing of a case.

If you think I was saying anything else, your problem, not mine.


45 posted on 05/22/2012 1:29:41 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette
The bottom line is you cannot bring down a prosecution on the head of your prosecutor by some kind of insistence or force of law. You can’t make them do anything.

No, Zimmerman couldn't make them do anything. But he could set the ball in motion by filing a criminal complaint. It's a legal instrument that must be acted upon the same as Angela Corey's indictment.

46 posted on 05/22/2012 1:36:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
"My question for them is, why do you so desperately want an injustice to have occurred? Why are you not content or satisfied that Zimmerman did what he had to do to protect himself?"

For the Amish, it's less about their Emmanuel Goldstein, er, Zimmerman, and more about the fact that they elected one of their own and things got worse, which was in fact what they secretly suspected would happen all along.

47 posted on 05/22/2012 1:45:13 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: txrangerette; TigersEye; Gilbo_3; marktwain
You can read it, but you can’t bring an official legal case as a citizen. You have to have a duly constituted government official bring a case.

If that is the case then:

  1. What are private prosecutors? And has common law been invalidated so as to make their use verboten?
  2. Explain why 42 USC §1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights exists, and how a citizen cannot instigate a civil suit on his own behalf.
  3. If none of the above are valid, then why is this not precisely a case wherein evils have become insufferable for the entire "system" to be changed?

48 posted on 05/22/2012 2:06:28 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: marktwain

Gee, could be why the police decided not to take Zimmerman in after they interviewed him at the scene.


49 posted on 05/22/2012 2:31:23 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: The Great RJ

The system gives the defence a far greater allowance to dismiss jurors.
The jury will be filled with mixed race south american immigrants...and crime victims.


50 posted on 05/22/2012 4:11:49 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: marktwain
In the newly released documents, lead homicide officer on the case, Chris Serino of the Sanford Police Department, called the shooting "avoidable" had Zimmerman remained in his vehicle.

Isn't Chris Serino one of those guys who was supposed to have been pissed off at Zimmerman for his having stirred up trouble over the son of someone in the police hierarchy basically getting away with stuff because of his connections?

The shooting would have been avoidable had Martin not told his dad he was going to spend the night at a friend's house and, instead, decided to wander around the neighborhood, or if, after losing Zimmerman, he had gone straight back home or if, after losing Zimmerman, he had himself called 911 and said he was afraid because he was being followed or if, after losing Zimmerman, he had not returned and punched Zimmerman in the nose and started pounding him or if he had not smoked dope and was more capable of making rational decisions about what would be or not be a good idea to do when a. first noticing he was being surveilled, b. losing Zimmerman, c. punching Zimmerman, d. climbing atop Zimmerman and slamming his head on the sidewalk, or e. grabbing for Zimmerman's gun.
51 posted on 05/22/2012 4:29:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: meatloaf

“Justice would be Mr. Crump being financially trayvoned.”

There is a bit of justice in the fact that Crump must go through life as a Class A fool.


52 posted on 05/22/2012 6:06:14 PM PDT by allblues
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To: hoe_cake
Skiddles are pills. Most likely DMA/ecstacy, or cough medicine.

Iced T is pcp dosed herb.


One question remains unanswered.

Has the burglary rate declined?

53 posted on 05/22/2012 6:27:18 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: OneWingedShark
Thanks Sir, i had forgotten the ole private prosecutors angle too...

hopefully zimm has someone backing him financially and can go on offense...

hes basically dead either way, might as well take some big fish down too...

54 posted on 05/22/2012 8:36:10 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: OneWingedShark

Civil action is on the table, as I mentioned.

As for using this case to change the entire system, let’s see YOU do it.

And please hurry up.

(Kidding)


55 posted on 05/22/2012 10:03:27 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Gilbo_3

Whatever Z does, legally...

It will be done within the legal SYSTEM, not some other way.

Bet on it.

BTW, Zimmerman HAS an attorney.

Just sayin...


56 posted on 05/22/2012 10:08:19 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: All

Dershowitz said on Fox News a few days ago that even if Zimmerman continued to follow Trayvon and even if Zimmerman provoked the fight, he would have grounds under what is called “imperfect self defense” to shoot Trayvon if he feared for his life.


57 posted on 05/22/2012 10:25:03 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: txrangerette
Civil action is on the table, as I mentioned.

Clarifying after the post I was replying to, which made it sound as if there was nothing the accused could do.

As for using this case to change the entire system, let’s see YOU do it. And please hurry up.
(Kidding)

Actually, I've been trying to reform the system, various ways; the problem is that I can't ever get to "present my case"... it's always somebody else's fault/problem/responsibility.

  1. State Constitutional Violations by State Statute
  2. State Constitutional Violations by State Supreme Court
  3. How States could tell the Fed off

Though, none of those are about "this case," except insofar as a Constitution that will not be enforced is no guarantee at all.

58 posted on 05/22/2012 11:11:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: marktwain

59 posted on 05/23/2012 7:17:44 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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