Washington, D.C., becoming a 'Mormon stronghold'

Deseret News ^ | May 16, 2012 | Joseph Walker

[greyfoxx39]

The stunning expansion of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Washington, D.C., area is profiled in a long, interesting and meticulously accurate CNN story that suggests "the nation's capital has become a Mormon stronghold, with Latter-day Saints playing a big and growing role in the Washington establishment."

-SNIP-

"It's hard to point to federal legislation or a White House initiative that bears distinctly Mormon fingerprints," Gilgoff writes, "while it's easy to do the same for other faiths." He cites as an example a recent White House "compromise" on contraception funding, which he says was "mostly a reaction to pressure from Roman Catholic bishops."

[greyfoxx39]

Let’s see, muslims have their man in the WH and people are worried about mormons?

Mormonism is antiChristian. It will be exposed as such over the next few months and it's doctrine and rituals will face constant (well-deserved) ridicule.

Romney's elite RINOs and his FR supporters will rue the way he has been shoved down our throats.

[Cicero]

Well, to tell the truth, I’m not sure about how many Mormons in Nevada vote for Harry. I do know that in this year’s primaries the news sources said that the Mormons in Nevada turned out in huge numbers, and voted something like 95% for Romney.

Some of them may have been uninformed. But the numbers are pretty different from the cafeteria Catholics. Historically, most Catholics were Democrats, since they were mostly ethnic minorities and working class. But the numbers have migrated over the years, from maybe 90% support to roughly 50-50.

Another difference is that with Catholics, the bishops don’t always speak out. That’s their main failing. But with Mormons, the leaders tell them who to vote for, if a Mormon is running.

[Servant of the Cross]

A Mormon stronghold, maybe. A moron stronghold, definitely.

btw, what happened to make this thread arise, or become an un-dead thread? Any idea?

[ReformationFan]

Lots of blacks are converting to Mormonism? :?

[dragonblustar]

Let’s see, muslims have their man in the WH and people are worried about mormons?

People often don't worry about something until it becomes a problem, then its too late.

[ReformationFan]

“Mormon hating”-anytime anyone has a disagreement with a Mormon or Mormonism about anything. Also known as “anti-Mormon persecution.”

Not unlike any disagreement with Obama about anything is “racist.”

[Colofornian]

HB you are incorrect. lds practice polygamy in Arizona, Utah and Nevada (probably other states as well) they follow Joseph Smith’s teachings and mormonism as it was first written.

Lds "prophet" Lorenzo Snow is infamous for developing this couplet -- which explains Mormons being god-wannabes:

"As man is, God once was; and as God is, man may become."

P-Marlowe, years ago, applied this couplet to Flds vs. Lds in a thread many years ago.

Last year, I applied it to polygamy in a tagline I had for a while:

Tenses of polygamy: "As fLDS now are, LDS once were. As fLDS now are, LDS may become."

So, allow me to explain that:

As the Flds now are (earthly-speaking) -- polygamists -- Lds once were; As the Flds now are (earthly-speaking) -- polygamists -- Lds may become (upon death -- or, upon the Mormon Jesus returning to earth).

You see,
#1...We've got McConkie's prophesy about polygamy coming back to earth...
#2...Brigham Young prophesied that he "will have wives and children by the million" (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 178)...
...and his First President (3rd-ranking Mormon of that time), Heber C. Kimball, who had 45 earthly wives, said: ...we will go to brother Joseph and say, "Here we are brother Joseph; we are here ourselves are we not, with none of the property we possessed in our probationary state, not even the rings on our fingers?" He will say to us, "Come along, my boys, we will give you a good suit of clothes. Where are your wives?" "They are back yonder; they would not follow us." "Never mind," says Joseph, "Here are thousands, have all you want" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 209).

To see a little more context to these quotes, go here: Mitt Romney's Mormonism: A TNR online debate

#3...I mentioned in a previous post three Lds current "apostles" who have been sealed to two wives in the Mormon temple "for eternity"...they expect, upon death, to become eternal polygamists.

[svcw]

Not a surprise, many blacks are also converting to islam.

[dragonblustar]

Washington, D.C., becoming a 'Mormon stronghold'

Lots of gays in DC too. I wonder when the first temple gay marriage will take place?

Will Romney be the flower boy?

[dirtboy]

If many FREEPERs would "get over" their fear of Muslims, terrorists, and Obama, they could actually make a proactive difference in this world instead of always having to live reactively fearful.

My former mother-in-law was shot at in a Muslim country for her Christian faith. Maybe I should heed your statement and call her up and tell her to she needs to be more concerned about the Mormon missionaries riding by on bicycles.

[greyfoxx39]

You know, Bluto took something similar...

Glad you can ridicule the oath of consecration...millions of mormons, including Mitt consider it "sacred".

I'd recommend to you that you ALL study mormonism if you are planning to defend it.

STRATEGIES OF THE MORMON CHURCH

"Mormon leaders, F. Burton Howard and F. Enzio Busche, members of the First Quorum of the Seventy, said: “We have an obligation to conceal our doctrines; [because] we are trying to be a mainstream Christian church . . .”11 This deception is so successful, that converts who later leave the LDS Church after discovering the real beliefs, said they believed they were simply joining another Christian church. (In the U.S. in 2009, an estimated 83,483 left.)

I encourage mormon defenders to research the ties between mormons and muslims, since so many use the term "better mormon than muslim."

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/16673/LDS-church-gymnasium-open-for-Muslim-worship-services?s_cid=search_queue&utm_source=search_queue

LDS church gymnasium open for Muslim worship services

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a Mormon church on Old Highway 94 in St. Charles,

provides space every Friday in its gymnasium for Muslims to spread their prayer rugs and worship." (August 24, 2010)

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/631/BYU-publishes-classic-text-written-by-Islamic-philosopher?s_cid=search_queue&utm_source=search_queue

BYU publishes classic text written by Islamic philosopher

"The publication of Avicenna's work is "an acknowledgment of the great contributions Arabic and Islamic civilization have made to the world,"

Daniel C. Peterson said. "It is an expression of respect for Muslim tradition on the part of Latter-day Saints."

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/17289/Mormons-Muslims-get-along-by-creating-books-not-destroying-them?s_cid=search_queue&utm_source=search_queue

Mormons, Muslims get along by creating books, not destroying them

"The threat by Pastor Terry Jones to burn the Qur'an was all over the news. What if, instead of destroying Muslim books,

we were actually to create them, by translating the classic works of the Islamic golden age into English?

"That is the project Dan Peterson, a professor of Arabic at Brigham Young University has been engaged in for more than a decade,

a project that has built tremendous goodwill and resulted in many lasting friendships between Muslims and those of the Mormon faith.

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/17020/McKay-Coppins-Why-I-defend-Muslims?s_cid=search_queue&utm_source=search_queue

McKay Coppins: Why I defend Muslims

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/16943/Muslim-Day-of-Dignity-observed-in-Baltimore?s_cid=search_queue&utm_source=search_queue

Muslim 'Day of Dignity' observed in Baltimore

"The Mormon Church donated some of the school supplies and all of the hygiene kits. While interfaith charity efforts are not uncommon,

the Muslim-Mormon team catches some people by surprise, Amin said."

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/16942/Orange-County-Calif-Muslims-Mormons-break-fast?s_cid=search_queue&utm_source=search_queueOrange

Orange County, Calif., Muslims, Mormons break fast (Sept. 7, 2010)

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/353/Make-LDS-part-of-Mideast-solution-rabbi-suggests?s_cid=search_queue&utm_source=search_queue

Make LDS part of Mideast solution, rabbi suggests

""If the (Quorum of the) Twelve were to approach the United States government and say,

'We really feel that the religious dimension should be engaged in any kind of process to seek a way

to bring about peace in the Holy Land' ... I think that would be very helpful," Rabbi David Rosen told an audience at BYU."

Want your future in eternity guaranteed before you die? All you have to do is to be one of the chosen: ""The elect of God comprise a very select group, an inner circle of faithful members of the Church.... They are the portion of church members who are striving with all their hearts to keep the fulness of the gospel law in this life so that they can become inheritors of the fulness of the gospel rewards in the life to come."

To have one's calling and election made sure is to be sealed up unto eternal life; it is to have the unconditional guarantee of exaltation in the highest heaven of the celestial world; it is to receive the assurance of godhood; it is, in effect, to have the day of judgment advanced, so that an inheritance of all the glory and honor of the Father's kingdom is assured prior to the day when the faithful actually enter into the divine presence to sit with Christ in his throne, even as he is "set down" with his "Father in his throne." (Rev 3:21.)

From mormon university BYU

[dirtboy]

I'd recommend to you that you ALL study mormonism if you are planning to defend it.

Defend it? You seem to confuse refuting that Mormonism is a threat greater than Islam with defending it.

Which is asinine.

I have no love for Mormonism. But I don't see Mormons nowadays chopping the heads off Christians for their faith. Whereas my former mother-in-law was shot at by Muslims for hers.

[Anti-Bubba182]

I have a very simple question for Colofornian: would you feel safer living in Salt Lake City or in Cairo?

[svcw]

lds and islam have been buddy buddy for decades, and why not they are very similar.
1838, Joseph Smith: “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace is ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us.

[Colofornian]

My former mother-in-law was shot at in a Muslim country for her Christian faith.

(And I've been generically -- but literally -- shot at in this country)

...Are you saying that none of us can multi-task, anymore, in our lives?...that I/we should either only focus on anonymous drive-byers to the exclusion of all else -- or even make them some high priority in our lives???

On this Memorial weekend of all weekends, are you claiming that veterans who were shot at in Korea or 'Nam should only focus upon Asian threats in the world?

Ludicrous reasoning.

There are more threats in this world than physical ones.

We ALL have an appointment with physical death; it's going to come. Those who are a threat to the body merely have the possibility to cut it short...and even then God is constantly intervening behind the scenes.

As for eternal death, that's where more -- not less intervention is needed!

[dirtboy]

(And I've been generically -- but literally -- shot at in this country)

And were you shot at for your Christian faith?

...Are you saying that none of us can multi-task, anymore, in our lives?...

I am saying that your position - that Mormonism is a graver threat to us than Islamists - is utterly ludicrous. Do you think Copts in Egypt would be afraid to move to Salt Lake City if given the opportunity to escape persecution or death? Religious freedom is a fundamental foundation of the Constitution, and this site is first and foremost about the Constitution. Islamism is a threat to religious freedom (and the Constitution) by its very nature. Mormonism is not.

Please show me a Mormon, over the last fifty years, threatening a Christian that they have to convert to Mormonism or die. Until then, you are dabbling in the absurd.

[greyfoxx39]

You seem to confuse refuting that Mormonism is a threat greater than Islam

In that case, you seem to have read into my posts something I haven't stated.

Relating the threat posed by mormonism to one's soul is in no way a lesser or greater threat than that of islam to one's soul.

Having had personal experience with mormon control, I doubt most would recommend it.

YMMV

[Colofornian]

I have a very simple question for Colofornian: would you feel safer living in Salt Lake City or in Cairo?

I have a very simple question for you, Anti-Bubba...

IF you believe in hell, that is...

Let's say you had or will have several beautiful single teen/young adult daughters as an "outsider" living alternately in those two cities...

Would they be more likely to marry a Muslim...or a Mormon???

In Cairo, your daughters' beauty might be "covered up" -- ne'er exposed; and your daughters would likely be more "on guard" vs. Muslim men.

In SLC, at least one of your daughters could easily succumb to a Romney type -- like Ann Romney the Episcopalian did...

And then YOU -- the outsider -- wouldn't even be allowed within the cultic temple to see your own daughter be married!

You see...Ann Romney became an apostate to her faith. She placed a cultist as a priority over what we the church are to place: Jesus Christ AS the bridegroom of the church.

For verses on Jesus as THE bridegroom of the church, see: REVELATION 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. {cf. Mt 24:44, 25:1,6,13, Jn 3:29, Rev 21:9}

The apostle Paul said: 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. (2 Cor. 11:2-5)

Mormons preach "another Jesus" (2 Cor. 11:4). Therefore, we are to be like Paul, who exercised a "godly jealously" over those the Lord had assigned a spiritual care and concern for...

[dirtboy]

Nice job of not answering a direct question.

[svcw]

Both lds and islam threaten your soul, which eternal.
Do I know anyone who was told convert (to lds) or die, nope.
Do I know people who were told either convert or be shunned, yep.
Do I know people in lds that were told leave lds and you will die, yep.
Do I know people that tried to leave and died, yep.
Again, however you keep talking about overseas not the US.
If Romney were running for president of the world your points might be relevant, he is not, so its not.
Romney is running in the US, so his belief system is important as it is with anyone who is running for office.