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Newspaper: 4 witnesses change stories in Trayvon Martin shooting
MSNBC ^ | May 22, 2012 | MSNBC Staff

Posted on 05/23/2012 8:44:15 AM PDT by caldera599

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To: caldera599

If stories keep changing then more and more reasonable doubt appears.

During depositions it will come out what influence the change.

Also, police are notorious for putting views INTO the minds of witnesses. “so you saw the unarmed innocent kid on the bottom? yes?”

Particularly true when you have anti-second amendment cops denied an arrest by operation of law.


21 posted on 05/23/2012 9:08:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: caldera599
"A young mother in the townhome community first said she saw two men on the ground but wasn’t sure who was on top; she later said Zimmerman was on top because she recognized his size based on news reports."

So she watched TV and changed her mind?!? Well thats just really reliable.

22 posted on 05/23/2012 9:09:28 AM PDT by Copenhagen Smile
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To: Godwin1

[[After all, there is a publicly made, unrescinded proclomation of a price on the head of Zimmerman. And NO local, state or federal law enforcement official has taken steps to arrest those who made this widely trumpeted death threat.]]

NOR will they do much to arrest asnyone that colelcts on that bounty- all of a sudden, they will all be ‘stumped’ about hte evidence that might be available to htem concerning the bounty hunter-

If Zimmerman is convicted after this bull crap arrest, we are all no longer goign to be able to defend ourselves agaisnt Criminals- especially if they are black- we will simply have to lie there and allow them to bash our brains out agaisnt the sidewalk so that we don’t offend them

Seemsl iek everyone inviolved in this cvase has ‘changed their minds’ along hte way- At first, even trayvon’s own father said the voice ion the tape wass ‘definatyely not’ his son’s voice- then the mother changed her mind, now even the eyewitnesses are cdhangign hteir minds- the only ones NOT changing hteirm inds are the prosecution- they are hhell bent on taking away our right to defend ourselves


23 posted on 05/23/2012 9:12:06 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: caldera599

Good old “Chicago Way” witness tampering.


24 posted on 05/23/2012 9:17:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: ScottinVA

—Exactly. Those “witnesses” .. no matter into which directed they changed their accounts.. have put the dagger to the much of the prosecutors’ case.—

And the one (#6) who’s testimony really matters in order to help Z was not really changed all that much. In essence, he said he could not “see” which man was screaming, but he saw who was on top and is not changing that. And that is supported by the claim of Z and the physical evidence.

I do find it interesting that the articles quote him on who he saw screaming, but paraphrase him on not being sure if the beating was happening. I find it interesting that “punching MMA style” got changed to “maybe he was just holding him down”. That makes no sense.


25 posted on 05/23/2012 9:21:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: caldera599

Zimmerman is another victim of Obama’s race war. I would like to see Obama lose this treacherous game.


26 posted on 05/23/2012 9:22:43 AM PDT by pallis
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...we will simply have to lie there and allow them to bash our brains out against the sidewalk so that we don’t offend them.

No. We follow the hunter's maxim. Kill them. Bury them. Don't talk about it. The herd will be thinned out in a very healthy way.

27 posted on 05/23/2012 9:27:50 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: CottShop
Apparently now, black folks can now say anythign they want abotu white folks, and the press will back them up fully- hell, they can even change their stories at any point, and it won’t make a bit of difference- aqs longt as whitey gets thwe shaft

And whitey just takes it w/o any opposition. What has happened to us & this once great nation? The whites allowing this are truly embarrassing.

28 posted on 05/23/2012 9:56:05 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: CottShop
If Zimmerman is convicted after this bull crap arrest, we are all no longer goign to be able to defend ourselves agaisnt Criminals- especially if they are black- we will simply have to lie there and allow them to bash our brains out agaisnt the sidewalk so that we don’t offend them

Yes,Yes. Don't put much faith in the white folks. Pathetic.

29 posted on 05/23/2012 10:00:20 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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"MMA" beating ?

Perhaps I'm out of touch, but can you explain what that means?

30 posted on 05/23/2012 10:03:12 AM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: ken in texas

Mixed Martial Arts- a combo of wrestling, boxing and submission holds. Some of them end with one guy straddling the other guy’s chest and punching his face until the ref stops the match.


31 posted on 05/23/2012 10:24:45 AM PDT by laker_dad
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To: caldera599

They may just be numbers now, but eventually they will be revealed by name in court. I imagine they are fearful and who can blame them?


32 posted on 05/23/2012 10:27:36 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: randita

If Zim was on top would he have suffered the injuries he did? Wouldn’t Treyvon have more than scraped knuckles?


33 posted on 05/23/2012 10:45:05 AM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: randita

If Zim was on top would he have suffered the injuries he did? Wouldn’t Treyvon have more than scraped knuckles?


34 posted on 05/23/2012 10:45:14 AM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: CottShop

Testimony where you don’t know the implications of what you say should be given more weight. If you know that a certain line is needed to support an agenda then it is less reliable than if you just say what you saw.


35 posted on 05/23/2012 10:49:22 AM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: rightwingextremist1776

“Wait till Zimmerman files the lawsuit.....”

Winning 50 million is a lawsuit is nice.

Donating half of it to the Romney campaign is the ultimate smackdown.


36 posted on 05/23/2012 11:42:58 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: cuban leaf

Sorry ‘bout my muddled text... meant to say... “dagger to the heart of much of...”

And I completely agree with you said, as well.


37 posted on 05/23/2012 11:53:00 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Digger

I could like your posts, but the third grade spelling really takes a lot away from it, are you mad at “spell check” too?


38 posted on 05/23/2012 12:57:02 PM PDT by Gertie
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To: CottShop

Your spelling is terrible, near childish, eats up any credibility, too bad, looks like good intent.


39 posted on 05/23/2012 1:01:42 PM PDT by Gertie
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To: caldera599

The Sharpton crowd knows they won’t get a conviction; they’re moving on to the civil trial portion of this case, where money will be at stake. There is considerably more at stake also, in terms of political capital and idealogical warfare. Similar to OJ Simpson getting acquitted for murder but in civil court, was held as responsible as the plaintiff could get from OJ.

Bonfire of the Vanities in real life


40 posted on 05/23/2012 2:24:13 PM PDT by Kevmo (Palin 2012. It's just me in the voting booth. 100% straight republican ticket.)
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