Posted on 05/23/2012 10:36:05 AM PDT by JohnKinAK
Nobody is saying it makes abortion good, we’re just saying it DOESN’T make experimentation with samples taken 40 years ago bad. There’s a very important not even slightly subtle difference between the two. It’s a night and day issue, Nazism was bad, VWs and freeways and advanced surgical technique are all pretty darn useful and often times down right good.
This is where our company parts. That has everything to do with good and evil. And that was a mighty short goodbye after your pledge. How can we miss you if you won't go away?
I said bye to the other one not you. You’re keeping logic in it rather than just spouting unrelated Verse. If you don’t want me replying to you then go ahead and stop replying to me.
Cosmic ownership doesn’t make it good or evil. So God owns the tissue sample, what’s that mean? Do we flush it because God owns it? Or do we use it because God owns it? See that’s what I mean by cosmic ownership doesn’t play into it. God owns everything, we already know that, it doesn’t change whether or not a tool acquired through evil can be used for good.
Again it all boils down to the Nazi surgery question that you guys keep avoid. The Nazis advanced surgical science about 20 years, they did all through horrendously evil experiments, but those techniques, and techniques built upon those techniques, have saved literally millions of lives. If we take this absolutist “there was evil involved in getting it so all use is evil” viewpoint that your pushing then every single surgery that’s happened in the western world in the last 50 or 60 years was evil, and every one of those people that lived because of those techniques is tainted by evil. If you realize evil isn’t like algebra, it’s not transitive then you understand that the surgeries are good, they’re saving lives and their origins don’t change that simple fact. And of course good isn’t transitive either, no amount of lives saved turns what the Nazis did good.
They did evil acts, AND good things have come from them. It’s a simple concept that doesn’t change just because God owns the scalpel.
No the verse is completely related.
In layman’s terms: God writes a conscience unto your heart, but because of your unbelief you supress this conscience and the truth that God speaks to you through it, all the while explaining away the evil and unrighteousness in the world you participate in. As you supress your conscience and God’s voice your heart will grow darker and darker while at the same time you will proclaim your wisdom, completely unaware of just how foolish you are.
For those of us who are saved, your posts are text book examples of the moral relativism so loved by the prideful heathen.
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