How Hatch Wooed Palin, and the Right

National Review ^ | 5/24/2012 | Robert Costa

[ken5050]

From a purely strategic perspective, one can make a good argument that Palin’s endorsement is actualy a GOOD thing for Dan. Hatch had it in his pocket...he hoped that he could come out of the Utah GOP convention WITHOUT having to go through a primary...and I suspect Palin made him promise NOT to use it..the fact that it comes out now would suggest that Hatch is worried..have there been any polls lately?

[hattend]

...where Hatch has frequently been an influential figure during contentious Supreme Court confirmations.

As fast as the last two breezed through confirmation was Hatch even there?

[Resettozero]

It’s still the greatest nation!

[mkjessup]

Pretty picky aren't you people about a SINGLE act.

It ain't a "SINGLE" act Sparky.

See 'McCain, T' (T for Traitor), Arizona - Sarah Palin not only proclaimed that her vision for America was the same as John McCain's, she actually said that he was the 'Tea Party candidate' and turned her back on a REAL conservative, J.D. Hayworth. This isn't the first time Sarah lined up with a RINO, and it won't be the last.

[mkjessup]

Hatch went up against Kennedy many times, most notably during the Clarence Thomas hearings. They remained friends in spite of their differences and I attribute that to Hatch’s ability to be true gentleman.

Yeah, a true gentleman who supported and voted for Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Now THAT's conservatism in action (snort).

[Deb]

There was a time when Senators believed president's should have the nominees they chose. If Hatch has a fault its that he served during the 40 years of the filibuster-proof, Democrat-controlled Congress when Republicans had no power and lost every fight. Those old timers still think presidents should have their choices.

You'd have more credibility if you didn't support such a HUGE loon for President (snort).

[wolficatZ]

“There’s no evidence whatsoever that the states are not investigating, prosecuting and punishing crimes triggered by bias and prejudice.

Even Attorney General Eric Holder has lauded the states’ efforts to punish hate crimes.” ~ Orrin Hatch

Sorry folks, but Orrin Hatch not only a pigfaced liar, he’s GOP-E+ and an ultra-RINO.

It’s way past high time for term limits on senators.

That’s what ANY discussion about Orrin Hatch should be about.

Bad move on Palin’s part, no matter how bendy, twisty, flaccid “TV” people try to spin it.

[mkjessup]

There was a time when Senators believed president's should have the nominees they chose. If Hatch has a fault its that he served during the 40 years of the filibuster-proof, Democrat-controlled Congress when Republicans had no power and lost every fight. Those old timers still think presidents should have their choices.

All the more reason to get that dead wood outta there.

You'd have more credibility if you didn't support such a HUGE loon for President (snort).

Tom Hoefling is a God fearing, America loving, Christian patriot and you ought to know better. So who are YOU supporting Deb?

[Servant of the Cross]

As fast as the last two breezed through confirmation was Hatch even there?

Of course he was. Unfortunately, so were Collins, Snowe, Gregg, Voinovich, Martinez, Lugar, Bond, Graham and Alexander.

[RichInOC]

You make an effort to reach out to people that can help you win, treat them decently, stick up for them, build relationships with them, and they support you. In short, astute politician is astute. Gee. Imagine that.

This in particular really irritates me:

“Sarah Palin can do whatever she wants, but this doesn’t affect our race,” says Holly Richardson, Liljenquist’s campaign manager. “Endorsing Orrin Hatch is the antithesis of what she says she represents — breaking up the old guard and bringing change to Washington. But I guess they’re friends.”

First, Holly, I don’t believe for a second that that endorsement didn’t affect your campaign. If Palin had endorsed your boy instead of Hatch, that sure as hell would have affected your campaign. You guys would have been unable to shut up about it. And rightly so. Of course it affected your campaign when she went the other way. Lying in the first sentence of the statement does not really endear me to you or your candidate.

Second, what irritates me only slightly less than the lie, if not just as much, is your being a graceless, petulant c...ampaign drone about the endorsement. Just once, I’d like to see a campaign, when Palin endorses their opponent, say something like “Naturally, we’re disappointed. We think our guy, as the Tea Party guy, was the better choice for Sarah, but we understand our opponent has built a good relationship with her. And that’s okay. We hope to work with her in the future, but for now, we’re going to move forward with this campaign.” Which says a lot of the same stuff as you said without making you sound like a sore loser. I’m not a professional politico, I’ve honestly never even volunteered on a campaign, but I get this. And it drives me absolutely nuts that so many of the folks who draw paychecks for this do not. At least not when it comes to Palin.

Say what you like, Orrin Hatch is not stupid. He saw Bennett get beat for the nomination, he didn’t want that to happen to him, and he took steps to make sure it didn’t. He cultivated the Tea Party guys, he cultivated conservatives, and he cultivated Palin. And his supporting her and her family during the ugliness...considering how so much of the rest of the establishment has behaved toward her, that’s especially like water in the desert.

[Deb]

Originally I was supporting Haley Barbour, but he dropped out and then I was for Bachman, Perry, Newt and finally, reluctantly, Mitt.

Please don't drag Tom over. I'm dealing with enough of FR's insanity today. He shows no sign of any of attributes you claim for him.

[mkjessup]

Deb, you would have more credibility, if your tagline wasn’t advocating violence and degrading behavior towards males. ;)

[Servant of the Cross]

Joe Miller, Christine O'Donnell, Doug Hoffman, Sharron Angle are all examples of conservatives biting off more than they could chew. And they weren't running for POTUS. EV is a FReeper and I'm sure a good man. But C'Mon Man! POTUS?! Are you nuts?!

I mean, that would be as crazy as endorsing Allen Keyes for POTUS ... oh, wait ...

[Deb]

Well, you have a great point there. I’m trying to be a good girl. Really. Be patient with me.

[ansel12]

GOP nominee Joe Miller was a solid winner, what killed us there was the GOP Senate endorsing the independent over the GOP nominee, it undercut Miller’s ability to campaign.

[mkjessup]

I'll say this: I would trust Tom Hoefling with America's future long before I would trust Mitt-Witt with it ('Mitt-Witt with it' - try saying THAT fast five times! lol) and I'm willing to bet there are any number of qualified and knowledgeable FReepers that could fill out the Cabinet of President Hoefling.

A few modest suggestions:

Secretary of the Treasury: my long standing FRiend, StephenJohnBanker, SJB would have our economy humming in NO time!

Secretary of State: Our Founder, Jim Robinson, because he is NOT a diplomat, he calls it the way it is, and he would be just the man to clean out that nest of vipers at State.

Ambassador to the United Nations: the one, the only, HUMBLEGUNNER! (why? because unleashing that wild man on the U.N. would be all it would take to drive those asshats OFF U.S. soil, GO GUNNER!)

Chairman of the Fed: SickOfLibs, who has a keen understanding of economics and combined with SJB, America's economic future would be secured.

Ambassador to the Vatican: QUIX!! Because there are just too few opportunities to instigate some highly entertaining events in world politics, and that would be one of them! ;) (just funnin' with you Brother Quix, you know I love ya man! ;)

Secretary of Energy: Landru, although I've not heard from FReeper Landru in years, his automotive and energy expertise would be just what we need to become not only energy sufficient, but HORSEPOWER SUPERIOR!

Well that's all the fun I can come up with right now, although I will close with the hope that I might be considered for Secretary of Defense, to be renamed the WAR Department, so I can actually BE the Secretary of War, which means that America would have but one policy dealing with our adversaries: we win, and they DIE!!!
(sooo, how am I doin'?)

[stephenjohnbanker]

Eliminate the Dept. of Education
Eliminate the EPA
Eliminate the Dept. of Energy
Cut federal staffing in other agencies by at least 1/3rd
Slash the corporate tax rate, and endemic regulations.
Interstate competition on health insurance.

There’s a start.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” It’s way past high time for term limits on senators.”

THERE is the answer!!

[rurgan]

What you all say about Sarah Palin is totally insane.

What are you all democrats?

[Colonel_Flagg]

If Hatch has a fault its that he served during the 40 years of the filibuster-proof, Democrat-controlled Congress when Republicans had no power and lost every fight.

For the record, the only filibuster-proof Senate Hatch served in was his first, in 1977. It lasted two years.