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To: Seizethecarp
“Meanwhile, good news in that Mario Appuzzo’s appeal in NJ Circuit Court is set for ORAL arguments in open court WED at 1PM.”

Yes it is good news. Someone on the thread wondered why Romney wouldn't respond if there were eligibility questions. The obvioius answer is that mainstream republican senators all signed SenRes 511 in April of 2008 to give thier guy McCain an chance to run, even though he was never ruled eligible. In the hearings, on the record, they all agreed with Judge and HSA Director Michael Chertoff who said:

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

I know you could cite this from memory Mr. Carp, but there are many still being confused by the clever Obots who now mostly change the subject when the issue of eligibility is raised. They assume the problem is with a birth certificate, when the problem is constitutional eligibility. As Chertoff, and every US Senator agreed, a natural born citizen must have been born to citizen parents. Barack never claimed to be natural born. He told us he was a naturalized citizen, using the legal language “I am a native-born citizen of the US.” That is the language of the 14th Amendment. Slaves were native born, but not citizens before the 14th Amendment. They were made citizens, thus their children, born on our soil, were natural born citizens. Barack’s father was never a citizen.

Mario Apuzzo and Leo Donofrio are effectively the best informed legal scholars on natural born citizenship. There certainly are many law professors who know, including Obama’s own Larry Tribe, who slickly avoids the issue in his letter to help whitewash McCaini’s ineligibility, after Obama and McCaskill failed to win passage of their SB 2678, ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’, filed Feb 28, 2008.

Obama wants you all to look at the right hand. He wants you to wonder about missing dates, about Photoshop layers, about publishers, about anything that cannot be proved so that the incontravertable truth, supported by dozens of Supreme Court cases, by founders, by framers, by legal scholars, by presidents, by five Chief Justices of the Supreme Court, and by the entire us Senate after the Senate Judiciary committe, will not be discussed. He wants you discussing religous doctrine, responding to taunts and name calling, rather than ferreting the truth. He needed some time to scrub historical docments, and, as in New York, change the printed qualifications for the presidency to admit the son of an alien, born a British Subject by his own admission, because the three amendment attempts by John Conyers didn't succeed. Every lawyer has read the words of John Bingham, author of the 14th Amendment, "...of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty."

Pundits are afraid. Republicans assume you are not literate enough to understand, and are complicit themselves. They might as well benefit if they think Rubio, not natural born, will get them some Hispanic votes. Obama is rewriting the Constitution to accomodate his ineligiblity, which will mean nothing when he is finished, and neither will the Constitution.

34 posted on 05/25/2012 11:55:32 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding
“I know you could cite this from memory Mr. Carp, but there are many still being confused by the clever Obots who now mostly change the subject when the issue of eligibility is raised. They assume the problem is with a birth certificate, when the problem is constitutional eligibility.”

As I see it, US birth location and having unitary parental US citizenship at birth are two EQUAL provisions of Article TWO, as defined in Minor v. Happersett.

Apuzzo’s case is a clean NBC parental ineligibility challenge based on Barry's publicly declared narrative and not a challenge to his birth location.

Arpaio’s investigation goes to the evident forgery of Barry's BC which calls into question BOTH his birth location and parents as neither can be established without a reliable BC.

Corsi claims in his video from HI this past Thursday that new evidence has been found showing that INS was calling into question BHO Sr. being the father of Barry at his birth and buttressing a case for Frank Marshal Davis as the father followed by booting Stanley Ann off to Kenya to avoid a scandal implicating FM Davis, a key KGB operative.

Remember that the 1948 BNA does not pass UK citizenship to children of a bigamous union, such as BHO Srs bigamous liaison with Stanley Ann.

If Barry's dad is FM Davis and his mom is Stanley Ann he is at a minimum a citizen at birth but would not be NBC if born in Kenya, IMO. Now the Obama legal team claims that the Marguet-Pillado case would make Barry NBC even if he was born in Kenya whether or not his parents were married and regardless of who the father was (UK subject BHO Sr. or US citizen FM Davis)

39 posted on 05/26/2012 7:52:55 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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