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As Predicted Democrats Abandoning Obama
Townhall.com ^ | May 26, 2012 | John Ransom

Posted on 05/26/2012 4:05:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: kabar
"The poll from WBUR, an NPR-affiliate in Boston, finds that 62 percent of Massachusetts residents support Romney’s law, while just 33 percent oppose it."

You're citing a left-wing news source to back up your support for a left-wing 'Republican'. And on Free Republic, no less.

I guess Socialism is ok, as long as the guy doing it, has an R after his name. Unbelievable.

121 posted on 05/26/2012 12:48:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: muawiyah

Both things turned out to be true: Goldwater got votes and we were in war in Vietnam(although technically, we were in Vietnam long before the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin resolution).


122 posted on 05/26/2012 12:51:25 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: muawiyah
No, the simple math is for Mitt to step aside and allow the party to bring in a real Republican.

You have repeated this nonsense scores of times but even you know there is no logic to it.

Romney has spent five years and piles of money securing the GOP nomination. It is all but in his hands.

Why would Romney suddenly now decide to simply not accept that which he has earned?

And if he did, who will decide who the nominee is to be, and which three people are among the top candidates at this point in time?

Your whole line ignores reality and defies reason.

123 posted on 05/26/2012 12:52:00 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Windflier

I HOPE SO!!


124 posted on 05/26/2012 12:52:59 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Moorings

You are being dishonest.

Everyone who uses this site sees the damage and division that are occurring.


125 posted on 05/26/2012 12:54:13 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
When Romney ran in Virginia three significant things happened:

1. He ended up running neck and neck with Ron Paul,

2. Republicans didn't bother going to the polls, and

3. ......

Well, nothing else happened. They held an election and nobody came.

You will see more of that in November.

Certainly Romney, if no one else, should know by now he's missing several things you need to get elected.

126 posted on 05/26/2012 12:57:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The GOP-e is not now nor has it ever been the real Republican party. I hope to purge those people and send them back to the Democrats where they belong.

The reality is that the same voters who turned out in huge numbers to toss out Richard Lugar and vote for Richard Mourdock in overwhelming numbers also voted for Romney in overwhelming numbers. It may not make sense but that is what happened. They decided they wanted Romney - not the GOP-e - otherwise Richard Lugar would have also been the victor by far. Same thing happened in Kentucky when voters chose Thomas Massie as the GOP candidate in the 4th Congressional district - the tea party favorite over establishment candidates.

Knock the nonsense off and start doing something constructive - like get Mourdock elected, Deb Fisher elected, etc. Complaining about Romney serves no purpose at this point. If you continue to spend all of your time doing this to in effect help Obama rather than alternatives like that, it will demonstrate you are simply not sincere and are part of the problem you claim to be railing against.

127 posted on 05/26/2012 12:57:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

They have an “open primary”. http://grassrootsidgop.wordpress.com/list-of-states-with-open-and-closed-primaries/ Primaries in open primary states tell us little about voting strength inside the party.


128 posted on 05/26/2012 12:59:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Republican Wildcat

My current best guess is that the Mitt-haters are motivated by their belief that Mormonism is demonic and that this trumps all other considerations.

They believe that the GOP, by nominating Mitt, has literally made a pact with Satan and must therefore be opposed to the utmost.


129 posted on 05/26/2012 1:01:04 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
If you are talking about being dishonest, you need to look in the mirror.

As far as division, there are many CONSERVATIVE freepers who will be holding their nose and voting for Milt. However, they do not go from thread to thread berating other freepers who are not happy with Milt, and trashing this website for allowing a voice for those who are not happy with the liberal nominee. There is a small group of militant Miltbots who are engaged in this activity. We see the same names on different threads.

130 posted on 05/26/2012 1:01:27 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Republican Wildcat

Deb’s the gal I took a very close look at and found her responses on RTL to be tepid at best. She seems to not have a Conservative value to her name, but knows how to voice nostrums that fool others easily.


131 posted on 05/26/2012 1:01:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Vaquero
if you trash Mitt and either dont vote, or vote third party you are in effect supporting zer0bama.

ergo

you cant be a Conservative and support zer0bama

That is a fallacious argument, and I hope you know it. Supporting the GOP candidate, regardless of that candidate's proven record of liberalism, is an abject failure to stand by ones conservative principles.

If you feel that you need to vote for Romney out of pragmatism, then state it as such. No principled conservative would promote the candidacy of any proven liberal, regardless of their party affiliation, or slick campaign rhetoric.

Voting may be another matter, given the present circumstances.

132 posted on 05/26/2012 1:03:24 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rogue yam

then tell us which group of Mormons you believe to be the true church so we can direct any of our mormon bashing at them ~ no sense on wasting it on a bunch even you think are members of a false mormon church eh!


133 posted on 05/26/2012 1:03:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rogue yam

“I am a conservative ideologue. This Romney hatred is something else.”

I agree. I’m sort of fascinated and appalled by it simultaneously. It’s a true force of nature, terrible in its magnitude and intensity. There is a component of the uber-rigid ideologue to it, and something of the Terrible Twos mixed with the narcissism of perpetual adolescence, but that still doesn’t quite capture its self-righteous, self-destructive ferociousness in all its awe-inspiring glory.

I’m curious to know what you make of it, what you think that “something else” is. Let me know, because I share your wonderment.

I’ve used the metaphor before of some young guy wanting to go out in a blaze of glory, thinking he’s making a heroic, game changing last stand at the Alamo, when the better analogy would be Pickett’s Charge.

I’m also thinking of doing one of my weekend vanities tomorrow, quoting a few salient paragraphs from The Business of May Next, William Lee Miller’s wonderful political biography of James Madison’s role in our nation’s founding. That way these folks can flame Madison rather than me. :)


134 posted on 05/26/2012 1:06:44 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: muawiyah

As I see it..come November I will have a choice of 4 more years of Obama or vote for the Republican nominee..
My candidates did not prevail and have all endorsed Romney.

I will be voting to oust Obama..easy choice for me.
I believe Romney will be more conservative with a more conservative Congress.
I’ve voted in every Presidential race since Eisenhower.
I still haven’t found a “perfect” candidate.
Obama is the most dangerous mistake our country has made when voting for President..
I love America..I want Obama and his administration GONE


135 posted on 05/26/2012 1:08:24 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Kaslin; All
Scores of Democrats running for reelection will defect from Obama before the campaign is done. And scores of Democrat voters will reject him too.

Therefore, the bumper sticker should read:

Obama, typical democrat

136 posted on 05/26/2012 1:10:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: muawiyah
When Romney ran in Virginia three significant things happened:

1. He ended up running neck and neck with Ron Paul,

You lie about everything.

Virginia results:

Mitt Romney won 60% of the vote and 43 delegates.
Ron Paul won 40% of the vote and 0 delegates.

This is not "neck and neck".

137 posted on 05/26/2012 1:10:52 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: SkyShot
In the run up to Reagan’s first victory he was also widely perceived as left and weak.

What? I was there, and don't remember it that way at all. As a matter of fact, I was still robotically pulling the lever for the other side at the time, and that's not the way the Democrats thought of Reagan at all.

Reagan had been a strongly vocal supporter of Barry Goldwater in '64, if you recall. He'd also well established himself as a conservative while serving as Governor of California (I lived there, and remember his time in office well).

138 posted on 05/26/2012 1:11:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rogue yam
Yeah, it's neck and neck ~ when you are supposed to be the ultimate top dog, oh so prepared, couldn't be slicker Republican candidate and somebody like Ron Paul gets 40%, you really have a problem ~ 'cause that's neck and neck in that game.

Romney didn't really have any competition.

I'd like to point out that all sorts of folks are pointing to the fact a guy in jail got 40% of the vote in a Democrat primary running against Obama (who's got a billion dollar war chest and walks on water while raising the dead) and noting this portends electoral disaster!

It's disaster all around.

139 posted on 05/26/2012 1:15:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GreyMountainReagan
Mitt does not hate America, Americans, or America's founders.

Hard to prove that by his record in office. In fact, his record reads just like any liberal Democrat's.

When I'm interviewing a new hire, I take what he says in the interview with a grain of salt, and pay a lot more attention to what's on his resume to inform me of who he really is.

Based on what we know of Mitt Romney, he's a complete gamble at best, and a mistake of gargantuan proportions, at worst.

140 posted on 05/26/2012 1:16:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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