Posted on 05/28/2012 12:46:18 PM PDT by James Thomas
“YOU WANT FMD TO BE THE FATHER OF ZERO. “
Not correct whatsoever and I have stated this multiple times.
I have a personal opinion about where Ann might have been during those missing years. It’s based on the missing passport information and other information.
But it is just speculation.
Your speculation is no better than mine or the speculation by DL.
We do know as fact that FMD lived in Honolulu during 1960 so just stop the nonsense of pretending he didn’t live there.
And even if a mond boggling sexcapade happened b’tween FMD and SAD that still has nothing to do with who Zero’s parents are!
An idee fixe is a sign of irrational mental obsession. Or something else.
Davis was apparently pretty good at ferreting them out, and obviously Stanley Ann was one of them.
Your opinion only, there is not a shred, scrap, iota, pinch or atom of evidence. You also have joined the ranks of, or outed yourself, as barking mad.
End of discussion.
Yep, and discussion with someone who has an idee fixe is impossible.
So I quit. Smack me if I ever come back to the subject of where FMD lived in 1960.
As you say, it’s got nothing to do with who zero is.
RC has done a conclusive job of establishing where FMD lived in 1960. Either the FBI file is wrong or he lived in Honolulu.
I notice that now that's it's been reasonably established that FMD lived in Honolulu in ‘60, it no longer matters [though it mattered quite a bit before]. That's called moving the goal posts. When liberals do it, it's not okay. Is it okay when conservatives do it?
I still don't buy the FMD as BO father. I just don't see a sufficient physical resemblance, though heaven knows that is not dispositive.
I have no idea who the woman in the old time porn shots is. The fact that Snopes says it's not SAD makes me suspicious, however. Is this the same Snopes that said Obama was born in Queens Hospital? And then quickly changed their reference when Obama claimed the other hospital? Is this the same Snopes that toes every single Obot explanation for every single anomaly, inconsistency and contradiction in Obama’s nativity story? Sorry; don't trust them to the extent that when they say something related to Obama is fact, I immediately suspect the opposite. It's only a suspicion, but it is certainly that.
Motives do matter. Fred, you're pretty free in assigning ugly, vile motives to DiogenesLamp when it comes to researching FMD. Why then do motives matter not at all when it comes to supporting your Obama-theories? You can't prove your theories to be fact, so delineating motives is critical. The motives will either strengthen or weaken your case. What motive DO you assume, for such elaborate and serious law breaking? I would sincerely like to know.
When it comes to the baby pic you keep posting, here's where I come down. I will NOT argue it w you; one’s conclusions on this subject are subjective not objective. That being so, you can't prove your case and I can't prove mine. Therefore I will state my *impressions* and let it go at that. The paler of the two babies is not Obama. The ears are wrong. I know already you disagree. There's no need to browbeat me. But that is my sincere and honest judgment. If you can accept it w decency and at least a veneer of politeness, I'd appreciate it. If all you can do is insult and demean me, go whole hog. It's undercuts your case, but whatever; you do what you have to do.
As for my theory, I'm still waiting for more facts. I don't believe BO was born in HI. I did for a long time but I had to abandon that idea when too much info piled up against it. I don't believe his B-Day is 8-4-61. I believe he's told a plethora of other lies too. But as for specifics, I'm awaiting more info. Hopefully Zullo and Arpaio will fill in some blanks.
Best to you all—and please try to remember: we're all conservatives here. We are all dedicated to seeing Obama thrown out of office at the end of this term at the latest. So even when we disagree, why can't we be polite and respectful about it? Why not leave the name calling and insulting to the more childish and silly moonbats; heaven knows they're good at it, and can get by fine w'out any help from us.
Thank you in advance.
Good post. People have different opinions. Like those photos don’t look like Ann to me but then I am not very good at looking at different photos and trying to figure them out. Perhaps if there was a better shot of those crooked teeth it would convince me.
But it doesn’t really matter if it is her in the photos. It could be her and FMD is the father or it could not be her and FMD could still be the father, etc.
Where FMD was in 1960 sure was relevant to Fred Nerks when I posted the realtor information on that house...with him demanding that I show proof that FMD was in Honolulu during 1960.
I did. He moved the goal post.
Motive is important.
I look forward to what Sheriff Joe has found out.
Let me add one other thing. There are a lot of women's names in the world. The odds of SAD and another woman just happening to share the exact same name and initial - Ann and S. - are not high. Ann IS one of SAD’s names, and S is the other initial. What a coincidence, that the other woman involved w Obama shares a name and the same initial. Coincidences do happen, but they're the exception not the rule. Just one more item to weigh in the general mix, fwiw.
It’s inifinitely more useless (figuring out where FMD was in any given time frame!) than how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
And I am sure and certain that there is a particular reason why this patently idiotic idee fixe is being dragged out over and over and over, to the point of mental illness.
What would that reason be?
Simple.
Two citizen parents, so he’s an NBC.
I’m staying away from the FBI files, there’s nothing I can find that gives an address for him in 1960. I looked several times. Yes, he did live in Honolulu in later years, and I no longer dispute that, my interest in FMD ran out after the 50’s, I was relying for background on TREVOR LOUDON’s KEYWIKI FILE.
http://keywiki.org/index.php/Main_Page
http://keywiki.org/index.php/Frank_Marshall_Davis
And I don’t need to go to Snopes to see that the girl in the exotic images isn’t Stanley Ann Dunham. I can’t tell you what they might have written about any hospital, because I don’t frequent the site, or take any notice of what they may have written, as reported by others.
It was Maya NG who said he was born in Queens Hospital, I think it was Vanity Fair article.
I find the suggestion that white girls can’t keep away from 50 year old black men disgusting.
The fact that you cannot see who that boy on the left is, isn’t my problem. I tried to make people think, but I can see it’s not possible. So Ayers wins.
“Well I’ll just tweak that a little. Namely, if it could be established w a very high degree of certainty that the woman in the b&w ‘porn’ shots is SAD, it would increase in my mind the odds that FMD had sex w SAD. Once a man gets a woman naked in his house and has her pose provocatively, sex is not a big leap away. So to me it matters, but as I said, I have no idea who the woman is.”
That’s true.
But we do know that the claim is that Grandpa and young Barry...and Older Barry visited FMD. So there was some kind of history there.
Oh, and the story about Obama selling drugs with FMD out of a hot dog cart or some such thing. Maybe that is who supplied the Choom to the Choom Gang.
So as I said, if you really wanted to make me think, you succeeded. I suspect, though, that what you really wanted was not for me to think, but simply to agree w you.
All the boys are supposedly images of zero, except for the 'lighter' boy in the two little boys image, he's supposed to be 'David' - the boy no one can find.
And here is a more recent photograph of zero as a toddler:
You work it out. It's your country. I'm losing interest. Like the song says, there's a marxist in the White House...and now I understand how he got there. Ayres did say that one day he would have the presidency, and he's got it.
If Obama wasn’t born in HI or any other American state, he’s still not a NBC. Plus, as I mentioned, I don’t really belive FMD is the father. I only made a comment about the woman in the pictures. I’d have less trouble believing she wasn’t SAD if Snopes wasn’t so cocky on the subject. They have covered for Obama too many times. When they cop that supercilious attitude while ‘debunking’ and anti-Obama claim, I get suspicious. They are so far in the tank for Obama they probably ask him for permission to use the restroom. They really hack me off.
and goodbye.
You can’t hear anyone who honestly and intelligently disagrees w you. That doesn’t speak well for your case. If you can only hear people who agree w you, you’re not basing your position on facts; you’re simply committed to it regardless. I had no dog in this fight originally. I read every comment and weighed ea one. I did independent research and analysis. My conclusion didn’t agree w yours. I gave you my reasons, and you posted the same pics you’ve already posted who knows how many times.
I know you’ll never change your mind. Thanks for helping me sort this out, though. Even if I didn’t end up where you wanted me to, I am glad for the opportunity to have explored the issue for myself.
They are so far in the tank for Obama they probably ask him for permission to use the restroom.
That’s a good one!
Whatever Snopes actually thinks, who knows; but since SAD is officially The Mother, then officially the photos must not be of The Mother.
My personal opinion is the photos are not SAD, some differences in appearance such as the nose, slant of eyes/eyebrows, etc. Plus there is no evidence that I’ve seen that she was the kind of woman to post for porno photos.
Until I divested myself of beliefs about Zero’s background and just started to read research threads as though I knew nothing (which was the truth actually!), I couldn’t figure things out. Once I took the mental eraser to my ideas and started from scratch, it all jelled and became clear (to mix metaphors, or actually not, since a good jelly is clear).
Obama’s relatives.
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/one-huge-fabricated-family/
I am not sure why Fred Nerks believes David didn’t die. The older picture of David seems to have different eyes..but again..I am horrible at figuring out pictures.
There are some startling pictures of Obama as a young child that I have seen with a weird head. As if he had some sort of brain issue.
He does have what appears to be a shunt in his head. There is one photo that I posted of a side view that a Dr said looked like a shunt.
But you said that zero’s ears were nothing like the ears of the lighter boy, aren’t you going to address that? They happen to be identical.
And who was the four or five year old dark boy shown with his father and Ruth holding baby Mark in Kenya?
You just don’t want to know. Ayres fooled you all. You are living in ‘Dreams’
Just because you can’t see outside the box, doesn’t make me a liar. Btw, Malik (Roy) Abongo Obama knows who that dark boy is, he said he played with Barack Hussein Obama in the village when they were children.
Anyway, I’m outa here. YOU just don’t wanna see it.
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