Mike Zullo - Sheriff Arpaio's Cold Case Posse Commander - Updates Us From Hawaii

TeaPartyPowerHour onYou Tube ^ | May 28, 2012 | Mark Gillar

[little jeremiah]

Bad research or trying to hide information. Don’t know the answer as to what is motivating the tag team.

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You’re either nuts or ill-motivated or both.

[RummyChick]

Answer this question.

Why would Stanley and Madelyn Dunham create this grandiose scheme you claim took place.

This GRANDIOSE scheme you have concocted requires lying to multiple governmental agencies over the course of Obama’s life. It involved felonies on a grand scale on an international level involving Communists at the time that Communists were a prime target of the the US Government...especially in Indonesia.

So exactly why would the Dunhams participate in this massive fraud.

[RummyChick]

btw, have you actually read the NYT article where the founder of Business International Corporation claimed that his company had provided cover for CIA agents???

I would like to see what he really said.

“CIA Established Many Links To Journalists in US and Abroad’, New York Times, 27.12.1977”

What was Obama really doing at Business International..the company he didn’t mention by name in his biography.

[RummyChick]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/obituaries/10agee.html

“Philip Agee, the former Central Intelligence Agency officer who turned against the agency and spent years exposing undercover American spies overseas, died Monday in Havana. He was 72. “

What did Agee have to say about DAI, USAID,NED and the CIA????

[RummyChick]

“What did Agee have to say about DAI, USAID,NED and the CIA????”

Hmm, well I be...
What an amazing coincidence.........

Ann was involved with the DAI, USAID
Obama was involved with BIC
Lolo was involved with East-West

Wonder if little ole’ Ann knew anything about East Timor massacres...started around the time she went back to Indonesia without Obama.

Now tell me again what the motive is behind this GRANDIOSE scheme that Fred Nerks has come up with about a FAKE SON, FAKE MOTHER, FAKE COVER STORY, FAKE Birth certificate....

[Political Junkie Too]

I was talking about the Obama picture, the man with the shades and the big pecs. I was joking, because he looks like secret service. You joked about how spindly Obama looks. I contrasted him with the not-so-secret service agent who was tailing him.

-PJ

[Fred Nerks]

Show me proof that she was NOT in Hawaii.

Show me proof she was. I know the U of HI wrote a letter that shows an enrollment for Fall 1960. But there's no transcript. Ann S Obama was a student living at the birth announcement address, according to the Polk. Who was Ann S Obama?

And if you can find where he was living in 1960 show me. If it turns out to be the same address as where it's shown he 'still' lived in 1963, it's still a couple of hours away by bus from the birth announcement address. That's if they were living there. I really don't know where the Dunhmas lived in 1960, do you?

FMD being a communist with a camera doesn't make him zero's father.

Did you say HONEYPOT? CIA KBG FBI couldn't find better, than an awkward, plain, 17 year old just out of high school? And just what did they need a 'honeypot' for? They had the goods on FMD. It was known who he associated with in Chicago, that he was close to Paul Robeson, that he was associated with Richard Wright, who accompained Malcolm X to the Bandung Conference in Indonesia in 1955, and also acompanied MX to the middle east in June/July 1959. It was common knowledge that MX had a friendship with Sukarno, who visited MX in the US in 1956. They were friends until MX was killed.

Here's your 'honeypot':

And then you need to take into account that Gilbert uses an image from when FMD was in his thirties or forties, that's from 1930 or 1940. ON THE RIGHT, HE IS SHOWN AS HE REALLY WAS AROUND 1960.

I'm not sure why I bother to reply to you, you really need to get off my case and pick on someone else.

[Fred Nerks]

Exellent analysis, which method do you think suits the author of 'Dreams'? There are two hooks in that book.

To date, the coal-black Kenyan native as father myth has been pretty well busted, but the lily-white teenager from Kansas as mother will take a little longer.

You can't really blame the Washington Post for being confused:

It's cute, even if it is a spoof.

[DiogenesLamp]

you better stop agreeing with me, or you will be tarred with the same brush they are tarring me...don't you know that SAD came staight out of High School and jumped into bed with this man:

Ah, I see you found it. Actually, I think this is a picture from the 70s, so it isn't fair to use this picture to berate the man for what he looked like in 1960. Apart from that, It would appear you have little experience with this phenomena.

I have had many friends in the Black community, and I have seem many things which I have regarded as strange. You and I may not understand why some pretty young white girl would want to have a sexual relationship with a much older black man, but I assure you that it is oddly enough, quite common.

I had an old (50+) black friend who would sweet talk young white girls every single time he met one, and half the time he would be bringing them back to his motel room. I can't remember how many relationships he had with teenage white girls, but he had so many of them following him that he had to scrap them off his shoe. And he wasn't the only one doing it!

Now i've read Frank Marshall Davis' "Livin' the Blues", and in that book he mentions quite often how many sexual encounters he had with various women, and how much success he had with young white women. He bragged about how so many white women visitors to the Island couldn't wait to get into bed with him because it was a "forbidden love" and was therefore a powerful compulsion for them.

Now i'm not saying it works on all of them, but I have become utterly convinced that there is a fairly large segment of white girls that fantasize about having sex with a black man. Davis was apparently pretty good at ferreting them out, and obviously Stanley Ann was one of them.

Every seventeen-year old girl's dream.

More so than you would ever believe.

[Fred Nerks]

Did you miss the reason why I posted the two images side by side, of zero and FMD? You must have.

[RummyChick]

I can tell you exactly how a directory could come up with Ann S Obama. It’s called data mining.

S. Ann Obama could very well turn up as Ann S Obama.

It happens all the time. First names can turn up as middle names - especially when the user only used an initial.

I watched to see what would happen with a data mining experiment using a fake name. The name showed up in all kinds of variations.

As for 1960, I have SHOWN YOU REPEATEDLY that the FBI files say FMD was in Honululu in 1960 and I gave you page numbers

Are you displaying such ineptness to try to fool google searchers on this topic????

You can’t show that Ann was NOT in Hawaii. You have seen a letter that says she was registered. So what’s YOUR proof..other than speculation.

Now combat the letter with proof she was somewhere else.

And I am still waiting on an explanation as to why the Dunhams would have gotten involved in this Grandiose scheme you have concocted that includes:

A FAKE SON, A FAKE MOTHER, A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, and a FAKE COVER STORY -Violating various laws that amount to major felonies. Violating laws that govern international travel.

And just how did they violate all of these laws...but Ann still managed to get a passport to Indonesia just in time for the East Timor massacre. Wasn’t she teaching crafts right before she headed back to a CIA hot zone???

According to declassified info, the US knew about the attack almost year before it happened.

The US knew that US equipment was being used, knew that it was illegal.

There is some fascinating info that was declassified.

But back to your grandiose scheme.

What’s the motive for the grandiose crimes that Stanley, Madelyn, and Ann conspired to commit according to you.

[Political Junkie Too]

I thought you posted them to say that an aged FMD is what an aged Obama would look like. I thought you were making the claim that there is little genetic similarity in their physique.

I went past that to joke about the Obama photo.

I'm not sure what to make of the various Obama Sr. as father theories. I only joined this discussion to point out what I read in the FBI files. I have not come down on any side of this at this point. I apologize if I was unclear on my motives, which were simply to pass along information that I read (and you said was too confusing for you to find) in the FBI files.

-PJ

[Fred Nerks]

Looking for the reasons why people do things, rather than at what THEY DID will get you nowhere. You are trying to look into the minds of people who are dead.

It's a fact that Onaka didn't sign the 'verification' and the two items left off were:

THE NAME OF THE MOTHER. THE DATE OF BIRTH.

Why might that be? Could it be there IS a record of a birth in Hawaii for a Barack Hussein Obama II - but the birthdate doesn't match and the name of the mother isn't what you are supposed to believe it is?

Who was ANNA OBAMA? Who was the wife from whom he was separated, living in the Philippines?

Which child looks like the child of the kenyan and which child, somewhat younger, looks like zero?

If the light never goes on in your head, there's nothing I can do about it.

[RummyChick]

Here is a very interesting tidbit of information.

Zbigniew Brzezinski was the NSA advisor under Carter. He blocked an attempt by Congress to get the cable about a meeting between Ford, Kissinger and Suharto ( the leader the CIA helped install) as it relates to the East Timor invasion.

Zbigniew Brzezinski.....hmmmmmm

[Fred Nerks]

They are both about the same age in that image. And yes, I did post both images to show there was no physical similarity.

I want to thank you for the information you posted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2888833/posts?page=488#488

It’s obvious that FMD did live somewhere in Honolulu in later years, but just what his address was in 1960 isn’t clear to me. Be that as it may, I am not planning a fourth reading of the FBI file to satisfy my antagonist.
He could have lived on the Dunhams doorstep and that still doesn’t place him in bed with her.

[RummyChick]

Motive in connection with a crime not relevant??????

Motive is different than intent but investigators usually look at motive.

You can’t explain why such a grandiose farfetched scheme would be put in place. And you also can’t seem to explain how it would be possible without the help of the CIA.

Dunhum was traveling in and out of Indonesia during very critical times. The CIA put Suharto in place. The US condoned the East Timor massacre. But yet, you think the CIA would allow a known communist sympathizer into the hot zone..one from a known sympathizing family who had concocted this grandiose scheme of fraud

Why would they do that? Of course knowing that the USAID was a front for the CIA. And knowing that it is well established in the anthropological world that the CIA , DOD , and other 3 letter agencies used anthropology as a front.

[RummyChick]

“It’s obvious that FMD did live somewhere in Honolulu in later years, but just what his address was in 1960 isn’t clear to me. Be that as it may, I am not planning a fourth reading of the FBI file to satisfy my antagonist.”

Here is something for you google searchers.
What kind of self proclaimed researcher who claims he can’t be fooled would refuse to look at all evidence as it relates to research on a Subject.

It’s kind of like a Prosecutor being handed exculpatory evidence but the Prosecutor refuses to look at it...

One reading of that FBI file would have been enough. 4 readings shouldn’t be necessary for a smart researcher.

So why the continued refusal to look at “exculpatory evidence” (not used in the true meaning of the phrase) while trying to deflect away from FMD

[Fred Nerks]

Take your pick. And if ever there was a racist comment, that was it. The fact that you read pornographic literature doesn't surprise.Oh, I get it...it was research!

[Fred Nerks]

YOU WANT FMD TO BE THE FATHER OF ZERO. I DON’T BELIEVE IT. IT’S REALLY THAT SIMPLE. AND I DON’T GIVE A HOOT WHERE HE LIVED ANYMORE. YOU GO FOR IT.

[Fred Nerks]

FATHER AND SON FOR THE RECORD: