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Twenty Things this Conservative Believes
Townhall.com ^ | June 1, 2012 | John Hawkins

Posted on 05/31/2012 10:21:17 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: jazzo

Conservative values are clearly biblical-the correlation between hard work and success, laziness and poverty, charity being from the heart on an individual basis, not through forced taxation. Personal and governmental responsibility and accountability, the correlation between righteous leadership and a nation’s success,the value of human life and the worth of the individual, sound fiscal policy, providing for one’s family, being a responsible citizen, spouse, and parent, and so much more. Once upon a time, every dollar in circulation in this country was backed up by gold. Money had actual value. Now, the cash in your wallet is a promissory note, with nothing of real value to back it up except our national willingness to acknowledge its value. That’s how I look at my conservative values. Biblical truth is the gold that backs up and provides eternal value to my conservative beliefs. I am conservative to the core, and literally thank God every day for allowing me to live in the greatest nation that’s ever existed. However, as much as I love America, I am a Christian first.


21 posted on 06/01/2012 2:47:56 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: dsc

Well said!


22 posted on 06/01/2012 2:52:28 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: jazzo

I’m getting my hiking boots and backpack ready, but just to understand, what is “your Christians” and “the rest of us Christians?” Your anger at social conservative opposition to gay marriage, abortion, and prayer in school has a libertarian feel to it.


23 posted on 06/01/2012 3:07:43 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: Kaslin

I have a problem with this statement.

“5) It’s unlikely to ever happen, but we’d be much better off in this country if the voting age were 25 and only people who paid income tax could vote. “

They LOWERED the voting age to 18 in 1972, from 21. Today, in Obama’s world, at 25, you could still be living under mama’s wing, insurance, etc. I’ve seen more useful idiots with college degrees at 25, than most folks have seen in their lifetime! (I worked at your local state ‘get-=a-job’ office for three years, until I retired.)


24 posted on 06/01/2012 3:21:20 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Kaslin

21) Hillary Clinton, instead of being in prison for the numerous felonies she committed (accessory to murder, theft, perjury, suborning perjury, theft of over 900 FBI files, etc.), will be on the ticket in November.


25 posted on 06/01/2012 3:43:59 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: ALPAPilot

“...Jesus is mentioned once in the Constitution...”
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Are you referring to this?

“...in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven...”

Pretty hard to call that a religious reference.


26 posted on 06/01/2012 4:45:27 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Kaslin

#20 is a no go for me. A right is a right and the 2nd amendment says shall not be infringed. So unless the government is going to incarcerate forever and ensure their safety at 100% then they cannot take away the 2nd Amendment and a person’s right and ability to protect him or herself.


27 posted on 06/01/2012 5:08:58 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Kaslin
As a Patriotic, Christian, Vet, I would probably consider myself to the "Right" of Atilla the Hun (or so the saying goes) but some of these screeds in this Manifesto are beyond the pale and give ammunition to those on the Left who attack we Conservatives as being "Neanderthals" in our thinking.

Put into play and accepted, many of these precepts would shred our Constitution and those God-given rights, liberties and freedoms therein, we Cons so respect, cherish and sacrifice to protect at all costs.

28 posted on 06/01/2012 5:38:29 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Kaslin

1) Any illegal alien caught in this country should be forever barred from legally visiting this country, working here, or becoming an American citizen.

Agreed. We should have a database of DNA and fingerprints on everyone caught entering the US illegally or already here, and they should all be permanently barred from any path to citizenship.

2) If you take welfare or food stamps or if your kids have to get free meals at school, you should be ashamed. Your kids should feel ashamed by your failure, too.

Again, I agree. There are times to accept charity, but it should be taken with a humble heart, and people should be so embarrassed to take charity that they will do anything legal to avoid that situation as soon as it is avoidable.

3) There is no such thing as a conflict between Christianity and science . . .

Science is an explanation of natural events. God is by definition supernatural and outside the scope of science.

4) . . . I’d also like to see the death penalty expanded to cover rape and child molestation as well.

The Supremes blew this one a few years ago when they ruled that a pervert who raped children could not be executed for his crime simply because he didn’t kill anyone. [Kennedy v. Louisiana - in which Kennedy raped his 8 y/o stepdaughter, severely injuring her so that she required surgery, but the little girl lived.]

9) Ninety nine times out of a hundred when someone cries racism, it’s either a lame excuse or a political tactic.

Trayvon Martin, Tawana Brawley, Crystal Mangum, and many others come to mind.

10) If you’re a Christian, then your faith requires you to oppose gay marriage.

I defer to God on this question. Personally, I find homosexual acts gross but not much different from some heterosexual couples where I can’t imagine what either one sees in the other. God provided better guidance than my instincts: homosexual acts are unnatural and are unacceptable to Him.

15) People who think black Americans are too stupid and incompetent to handle getting a voter ID are just as racist as the KKK, although they show it differently.

Liberals are by far the most racist people in America. They believe blacks could not compete on a level playing field. When they call us racist, it’s because we believe blacks are perfectly capable of being the best possible person for a job based on ability and the content of their character, without giving them extra credit for the color of their skin.

19) You can no more change your sex than you can change from a human being into a Water Buffalo. Believing otherwise is a mental disorder that should be handled by a psychologist, not catered to with surgery.

I’ve never understood how a surgeon could agree to mutilate a person’s healthy body in response to mental illness. Doctors should be ashamed of such conduct.


29 posted on 06/01/2012 5:52:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: Kaslin

Number 18:

We can thank Fat Teddy (now sober two years and 10 months) for his 1965 immigration “reform” which allows other country’s dregs into the U.S.


30 posted on 06/01/2012 5:57:25 AM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: Kaslin
"4) William Bennett once said it was "morally plausible" to execute drug dealers. I agree with him. I'd also like to see the death penalty expanded to cover rape and child molestation as well."

The death penalty should be on the table for any crime which the victim would have been justified in resisting with deadly force.

In such cases, it is the criminal himself who has subordinated the value of his life to the fruits of the crime. Here in Louisiana, we did, until relatively recently, have the death penalty for the aggravated rape of a minor, and we had the only person on death row in the entire nation for a crime other than capital murder. SCOTUS shot it down.

31 posted on 06/01/2012 6:06:45 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: doc1019

Voting machines in Charlotte, NC allow for writing in candidates. Sort of like signing the little machine when you use your credit card.


32 posted on 06/01/2012 6:11:59 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Kaslin

Pretty good.
My only issue is #4 - the unintended consequence of executing criminals is that they will be willing to kill more to cover up their crimes. Maybe if we added “death by immuration (live burial)” for individuals who kill to cover up their crimes?


33 posted on 06/01/2012 6:22:31 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: saywhatagain

Excellent reply


34 posted on 06/01/2012 6:32:51 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Pollster1; Kaslin
I have an issue with:

2) If you take welfare or food stamps or if your kids have to get free meals at school, you should be ashamed. Your kids should feel ashamed by your failure, too.

There is no reason for a child to feel shame or be shamed by the actions of their parents.

Being broke or bankrupt is not a good reason to feel shame either.

Failure needs to be seen for what it is, a stumble on the path to success. - Giving up is the real failure. Persistence should be rewarded.

Many of our greatest people have risen from a poor environment to become rich.

It should be nothing to be ashamed of, it should be a motivational factor for success.

Welfare should be temporary and fleeting as those who are there are inspired to rise above temporary conditions.

I think it was Bill Cosby who, when talking about his childhood, stated his father said he was busted and not poor. Poor is a long term, systemic problem. Busted is short term.

35 posted on 06/01/2012 7:12:30 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: jazzo

A Christian, is a Christian first.

Thankfully, the Lord blessed me by allowing me to be an American.

BUT, Jesus comes first.


36 posted on 06/01/2012 8:07:32 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: ALPAPilot

Where is Jesus mentioned in the US Constitution? Would like to know.


37 posted on 06/01/2012 8:13:58 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

I am happy for you. But fortunately for the rest of us, your side did not “carry the day” “back in the day”. Americans do not have to believe in your “Jesus” to be American, and that is a “Fact Jack”!!!!


38 posted on 06/01/2012 8:33:14 AM PDT by jazzo (MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Freestate316

I am a liberatarian sir, and I am not “angered at social consevative opposition” to anything. I am offended by statements in the article trying to tell “Christians” how they must feel on these issues. And yes I may not fall on the same side of these issues as republicans, however I respect your right to disagree with me. I do not repect anyones right to tell me as Liberatarian, a Christian, or as I man what I “must” believe on these issues. That’s all, enjoy your hike.


39 posted on 06/01/2012 8:50:15 AM PDT by jazzo (MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: RoadGumby
“...in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven...”
40 posted on 06/01/2012 10:34:09 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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