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To: dsc

Really? Christianity is the most true religion? Says you. So if I believe that the rights of the individual supercede those of the collective, I have to be a Christian or it lacks logical consistancy??? So I have to believe your way or I don’t have a logical base for my beliefs???? Priceless, “our way or the highway”. That is pathetic, this is why your “Christians” are seen as a joke, and give a bad name to the rest of us christians.


15 posted on 06/01/2012 1:13:34 AM PDT by jazzo (MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jazzo

“Really? Christianity is the most true religion? Says you.”

You are free to pretend that my say-so is the only proof, if you like.

“So if I believe that the rights of the individual supercede those of the collective, I have to be a Christian or it lacks logical consistancy???”

1. Supersede, not supercede.
2. Consistency, not consistancy.
3. You only get one question mark.
4. Try very hard to grasp the subtleties. If you believe anything at all, you have to believe it in the context of a higher authority or it’s nothing but your opinion, which is no better than anyone else’s opinion.

“So I have to believe your way or I don’t have a logical base for my beliefs???? Priceless, “our way or the highway”.”

1. You owe the universe five question marks.
2. Try—really try—to understand this. What I said was that *conservatism* is not logically consistent outside the the framework of Christianity.

You can say with logical consistency that, since there is no God, all things are permitted, and you are therefore free to rape, murder, and steal to your heart’s content. That is wrong, but it is neither conservative nor logically inconsistent.

“That is pathetic, this is why your “Christians” are seen as a joke, and give a bad name to the rest of us christians.”

Christian with a lower-case “C?” I very much doubt that your understanding of Christian theology is adequate.


46 posted on 06/01/2012 1:47:53 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: jazzo

Actually, Jesus said it. In John 14, Thomas asks Jesus, “We don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” Jesus replied, “I am the Way, THE TRUTH, and the life. No one comes to the Father except by me.” In that statement, if you read the entire chapter, Jesus proclaims that there is no other way to Heaven—not Allah, not Buddha, not the Constitution, not our own good deeds. If anyone believes that there is another way to Heaven besides Jesus, that person is not a Christian. I didn’t say it, no one on this thread did either. Jesus said it. He is #1 in my life, and I believe Him


51 posted on 06/01/2012 3:01:01 PM PDT by Freestate316
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