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To: BlackElk

You are not voting for MR.
You are voting against the evil that is Obama.

>>Russell Shaw is a well respected writer and Our Sunday Visitor, while not an official organ of the Roman Catholic Church, is generally a fine publication. Nonetheless, I recognize no moral obligation to choose Romney because he has SO FAR not succumbed to cooperating with post-birth infanticide as Obozo has. <<

Read the article, it wasn’t Shaw, it was, “Moral Principles for Catholic Voters,” issued in August by the four bishops of Kansas.

Listen to the Bishops.

I’m going with my daughters’ Crusaders for Life group to protest the HHS mandate on Friday. I fully expect to be spat on and sworn at. This protest will be illegal if BO makes it back in.


217 posted on 06/04/2012 7:46:52 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: netmilsmom; EternalVigilance; wagglebee; Dr. Sivana; shibumi; Windflier; xzins; little jeremiah; ...
netmilsmom:

If you and your daughter are spat upon at a Kansas protest against the KATHLEEN GILLIGAN SEBELIUS issued HHS mandates, then Kansas must not be what it was when I traveled to Wichita from Connecticut in 1991 to represent CT pro-lifers arrested by US Marshall's deputies and Sedgwick County personnel at the late Killer Tiller's abortion mill parking lot during what Operation Rescue called "The Summer of Mercy." The matter was before the notoriously pro-abort but personally nice guy US District Court Judge Pat Kelly, an ex-Catholic. Kelly was waging war against then Wichita Bishop Gerber (once Kelly's parish pastor) who I believe was succeeded as bishop by Bishop Thomas Olmsted who is now in Phoenix, AZ. I don't think Bishop Olmsted will be telling anyone to vote for Myth Romney much less Obozo. Bishop Olmstead is not a lesser of two evils kind of guy.

If Kansas is degenerating like that, perhaps the bishops issuing such a document bear some responsibility? Sebelius who is the daughter of the notorious Ohio governor Jack Gilligan was governor for two terms in Kansas. Has she been publicly excommunicated? Publicly humiliated? Denied the Holy Eucharist? If not, why not? Her public buddy and her fellow members of the Sanger/BlackmunTiller/Sebelius mutual admiration society is, ummm, no longer with us. Ms. Sebelius, an alumna (along with Nancy Pelosi) of some misguided excuse for a "Catholic" women's college in DC run (into the ground by the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur whom I had in grammar school way back when they were still Catholic) needs public repentance or public excommunication.

What we most certainly do NOT need is any more accommodation of any sort with money-mad or power-mad pro-aborts whether Obozo or Romney. If the Kansas bishops disagree, that's on them. It won't be the first time that I disagree with bishops nor, undoubtedly, the last. I don't live in Kansas and the bishops in question have no authority whatsoever over me unless I happen to be visiting their respective dioceses.

My Bishop is David J. Molloy of Rockford, IL, since he was consecrated a bishop and succeeded Bishop Thomas G. Doran on May 14, 2012. Not in Bishop Doran's lifetime nor likely in God's lifetime are we likely to see Bishop Doran (since 2000, a member of the Church's Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura which is the Church's Supreme Court) endorse the likes of Myth Romney for POTUS or any theory of "lesser harm or lesser evil." Bishop Doran publicly denounced Notre Shame University for welcoming Obozo and honoring him and suggested a change of that sorry institution's name to Northern Indiana Humanist University, stated in 2006 (while Romney was busy including heavily subsidized abortions and Planned Barrenhood under Romneycare) that the US would soon outstrip Nazi Germany in killing innocent human beings (he was being modest since 50+ million dead babies is about 5 times Hitler's toll). Bishop Doran enthusiastically welcomed a return of Tridentine (Latin old style) masses to this diocese. It appears so far that Bishop Molloy intends to continue Bishop Doran's style of leadership.

As any Catholic should avoid the grave penalties assessed latae sententiae (automatically) against anyone who materially cooperates with abortion, I quite vigorously disagree with this nonsense that we have some sort of obligation, as Catholics no less, to vote for Myth the enthusiastic babykiller and persecutor of disagreeing churches for EXACTLY the same reasons as I will not vote for Obozo either.

You bet I am not voting for Myth Romney. Nor am I voting for Obozo. I am voting against the evil that is BOTH of these evil twins.

When my clients in the pro-life movement (1100 of them in various incidents) swarmed INTO the abortion mills of Connecticut in substantial numbers, de-sterilized the instruments, poured raw eggs into the suction machines and generally put such mills out of business for weeks at a time, THAT was said to be "against the law or illegal." In such an event, then the law is itself illegal as a violation of Natural Law. If Obozo or Myth want to persecute Catholics or other morally conservative religious folks for ACTING as though they believe what they say they believe, so be it. Whenever this happens in Church history, we win! We turn the last shovel of dirt on the figurative coffins of our enemies. Do we believe in the promises of Jesus Christ to our Church or do we not? If we are Catholics, then let us act on those promises.

If we are spat upon or (puhleeze!!!) sworn at (oh, the intolerable psychological discomfort of being SWORN AT!!!), we should regard either as a compliment considering the source. Plenty of pro-lifers were brutalized or sexually assaulted by law enforcement, went to jail at some length for the privilege and right to shut down the abortion mills even temporarily in places like Los Angeles, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, West Hartford, Atlanta, etc., under the effectively pro-abort regime of Bush the Elder while the US Civil Rights Commission labored in vain to punish the perpetrators of anti-life violence at the request of John Cardinal O'Connor and Archbishop John Whealon and NYC Congressman Guy Molinari.

AND, BTW, where are my brothers in the Knights of Columbus when Catholic women and children are being spat upon or even sworn at??? It should be their privilege to non-violently get in the way of any heathen exercise of that sort. I believe that my council's 350-400 pound and relatively young insurance agent is available if expenses are paid (from Illinois and back) and perhaps his sizable eldest son (likewise) who is about 22 years old and an absolutely immovable object and an irresistible force, like his dad.

I tend to ignore counsels of those (particularly in the local hierarchies) who cry "Peace, peace, when there is no peace" or who counsel cooperation with evil, lesser or not. As St. John Chrysostom famously observed a long time ago: The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.

The bishops owe us a LOT more than: Vote for Myth Romney since there is a remote possibility that Myth would be a smidgeon better than Obozo on the issues that count.

People who protest the HHS mandate should ALSO protest Romneycare and be militantly in the faces of those who disagree and who counsel compromise with such evils. If our forebears were torn to pieces and consumed by lions at the Circus Maximus for refusing to worship various Caesars (some of which Caesars were marginally better than other Caesars but who was wasting time calculating which Caesar was the lesser of the evils as in Claudius was surely more benign than Caligula or Nero. maybe we could worship Claudius just this once!), if St. Peter could be crucified upside down for the entertainment of the guests at Nero's garden party which was lit by the flames of other martyrs covered with pitch and set afire alive, if Catholics and others were martyred for resisting the nazis and communists in the last century, can we 21st century folks muster the courage to be accused of being, well, RUDE to our pro-abort enemies like Romney and Obozo and anyone who might spit at you or swear at you on Friday??? Or even to vote against both of these shameless babykillers????

218 posted on 06/04/2012 11:04:54 PM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: netmilsmom
You are voting against the evil that is Obama.

Sorry; but our laws do NOT allow voting AGAINST someone.

We can ONLY vote FOR someone.


It's true we can SAY we are voting 'against' someone, but that does NOT make it so.

220 posted on 06/05/2012 5:25:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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