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Perspectives: Heads they win, tails we lose [No ABO!]
St. George Utah.com ^ | June 1, 2012 | Bryan Hyde

Posted on 06/02/2012 8:58:03 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: CharacterCounts

121 posted on 06/02/2012 5:48:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: greyfoxx39

Emperor, you have no clothes


122 posted on 06/02/2012 7:39:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: SamAdams76

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123 posted on 06/02/2012 7:41:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: X-spurt
Sorry to dispell your mistaken notion, but I sure a heck ain’t a Romney supporter. I reluntantly went from Palin to Perry to Newt and voted Newt in our Texas Primary, this week.

Okay.

Anyone now touting 3rd party is all but pulling the trigger on our national suicide.

I sorry but I've never bought the fear card. I'm only slightly more afraid of a second Obama term than I am of a first Romney term. The next four years are going to be awful regardless of who wins.

124 posted on 06/02/2012 8:29:14 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: CharacterCounts

How’s that? The quote was from the thread lead-in! Go read it.


125 posted on 06/02/2012 9:43:22 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Elsie
See post 125.
“That” quote was not mine, my post was a response to the originator of the thread.

What's the religious connotation all about? Don't think we have a political problem? Try ignoring it and we'll have a freedom issue.!

126 posted on 06/02/2012 9:59:11 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: X-spurt
First of all the GOP only controls the House, not all of Congress.

First of all I am not a complete moron, but I do know that the House controls the money. They so far have presided over the biggest spending spree in history.

The House has the Only Constitutional authority to produce spending bills, historically they have been remiss in their obligation.

Second no congress can be bound by a preceding congress, they have all the power they need, they curiously refuse to use it. I know the administration would ignore the Contempt citation, that should net be reason to ignore the fact that they are in contempt,the Senate has nothing to do with it.

The power of the purse was given to Congress for a reason by the founders, Boehner would be unwise to ignore that.

127 posted on 06/03/2012 12:50:20 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: itsahoot
The power of the purse was given to Congress for a reason by the founders, Boehner would be unwise to ignore that.

The power of the purse was taken away from the House by the maneuverings of the Democrats -- starting as early as 2009.

When the passed Porkulus, they knew they would likely lose the House in 2010.

So:

1. They styled Porkulus as a one-time-only expenditure. Yet, they built the trillion dollars into each department's budget framework.

2. The 2009 budget was the last budget passed by the House and Senate. There was no effort to write a 2010 budget and the departments went on auto-pilot thanks to base-line budgeting -- with Porkulus built into their base-line. The same happened with the 2011 budget, which was due in October, 2010. The Democrats had complete control of both Houses of Congress, at the time; the GOP had no voice in the matter.

3. When the GOP took over the House in 2011, there was no budget -- but there was a spending plan because of the base-line budget, with Porkulus built in, of course. And another 3-to-7% automatically added to the total. The GOP House developed a budget, after the fact. But the Democrat Senate wouldn't even bring it to a vote. The spending cvontinued unabated.

4. The GOP House produced budgets for 2012 and will doubtless prepare one for FY 2013, which starts in October, 2012. The Senate refused to act on the 2012 budget. And they will refuse to act on the 2013 budget. Spending will continue to be guided by the baseline budget system -- with Porkulus growing annually, thanks to the wonders of compound interest.

5. Under the circumstances, the only mechanisms available to the House to control the budget are the continuing resolutions. They can have no impact on total spending...or on how the money is spent...unless the Senate concurs!

Checkmate. The Democrats have gamed the system and installed a devious plan, based on double-dealing, that has kept the huge deficit spending rolling along unabated.

Yes, they're cheating. And they're irresponsible. And they have subverted the Constitution to their own political ends. But there is little or nothing that the House alone can do about it. That is why we need not only the House, but a dominant majority in the Senate and the Presidency to reverse all the damage that has been done.

128 posted on 06/03/2012 1:19:53 AM PDT by okie01
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To: Sherman Logan

Yes, there will be elections afterwards, and no, the country will not change trajectory in any dramatic way. Mind you, the trajectory has been leftist for decades.


129 posted on 06/03/2012 2:35:21 AM PDT by xzins (Vote for Goode Not Evil! (The lesser of 2 evils is still evil!))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You have a point.

Bishop RomneyCARE (author of RomneyCARE and gay marriage)
has no “clothes”. He has no chance and should pull out.

NOW.


130 posted on 06/03/2012 3:31:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: X-spurt
Don't think we have a political problem? Try ignoring it and we'll have a freedom issue.!

I'll reply thusly:

Don't think we have a spiritual problem? Try ignoring it and we'll have VERY big problem!

131 posted on 06/03/2012 4:58:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: okie01
Don't look now, Elsie. But, there, under your bed.


That is SO yesterday!!



132 posted on 06/03/2012 5:01:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: woofie
If you want to play “Im better than you” nobody I know cares.....

I'll keep that in mind...

Your purity will earn you a medal...

133 posted on 06/03/2012 5:03:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SamAdams76
We are trying to conserve bandwidth on Free Republic.

Good!

That'll leave more room for my PICTURES!!

134 posted on 06/03/2012 5:05:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: X-spurt
How’s that? The quote was from the thread lead-in! Go read it.

THIS wasn't : Other than Mormon hatred, its hard to see your rational point.

135 posted on 06/03/2012 5:09:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: X-spurt
See post 125.


See post 135

136 posted on 06/03/2012 5:11:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: itsahoot
Your subject and statement was Contempt Citation not being pushed by GOP controlled Congress. Now you want to divert to spending?

There is no argument regarding the House's authority regarding spending, but SPENDING and CONTEMPT CITATION are far different things my FRiend.

In a purely theoretical sense, one could assert that the House could stop all spending authorizations in protest to force a Contempt Citation, but Blue Sky does not prevail in an election year, in deference to those “undecided Independent voters”.

137 posted on 06/03/2012 6:59:45 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Elsie

Well, there are many words and statements not directly quoting the thread verbatum on any thread, such as your off the wall ones obviously pushing an agenda or simply trying to get a rise.

As to the spritual degradation in America, yes that is in a sense the root, but no society is static and governance by political means can not be ignored. Throughout our history, there has always been a significant portion of society that seems to have lost their way spiritually, this is not new although anti-spiritualism is definately being pushed by one political side and must be countered by political efforts by our side.


138 posted on 06/03/2012 7:22:50 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: X-spurt
Well, there are many words and statements not directly quoting the thread verbatum on any thread, such as your off the wall ones obviously pushing an agenda or simply trying to get a rise.

And; they are perfectly allowable; right?

Of COURSE I have an 'agenda'!

Doesn't EVERYONE?

139 posted on 06/03/2012 11:52:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
 



140 posted on 06/03/2012 11:53:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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