Skip to comments.George Zimmerman Returns to Sanford, FL [In Police Custody]
Posted on 06/03/2012 12:13:43 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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iow...you have no proof either....got it.
The ME has his weight at 158 -- more than the 140 pounds that the media had initially reported.
So the ME has him shorter but heavier, and Zimmerman in his police report taller but lighter [185 vs 250]. The advantage still goes to Trayvon by a long shot.
What would the scars indicate??? Old injuries??? from old fights???.
This trial is being so ginned up and I think more people than Zimmerman might feel at risk. And, it anything should happen to him, man-oh-man, I can just feel the lawsuits pressed by his family.
Especially when the info came out that kind of exonerated Zimmerman.
And, now when witnesses are doing 180 degrees, this case may be falling apart.
And, with case not being until 2013, I smell Holder and “his People” stink.
Throw out the case, move to Peru or somewhere he and his family can't be located and live off the money he makes owning, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.
“Sorry but all zimmerman’s injuries show is that he was losing the fight -— not who started it.
If you have a link to proof of martin starting the fight pleas post it.”
I can’t tell if you are being deliberately dense or just can not follow what I posted. Last chance - who started it became irrelivent, immaterial, and nor germane once Martin began the potentially lethal slamming of Zimmerman’s head against the concrete sidewalk. Note also, if you can, that when Martin prevented Zimmerman from escaping, he removed ANY legal “duty to retreat” on the part of Zimmerman.
No offense intended, but either you are deliberately ignoring clearly written sentences, are some HolderPerson troll, or I am unable to communicate with you. In any case, good luck in your attempts to comprehend what happened when the soi dissant “No_Limit_Nigga” began slamming Zimmerman’s head into the concrete.
That said, I think it's prudent to hang fire on condemning Zimmerman's wife. De la Rionda is making the "lie" accusation without adequate justification, and that might bite him in the ass. It won't be the first time he's made up an accusation, on half of the evidence.
I can think of a few "innocent" reasons Shelly Zimmerman answered the way she did; in addition to attempting to hide the money to keep the bail low.
Maybe. But I think Corey and de la Rionda are fully capable of making things up, without Crump's help. In this case, the state was able to research the passport status, where Crump would not have been able to, and likewise the state has access to the recorded phone conversations. I wonder why it took the state over a month to act on what it knew.
Can they do anything against his wife? I thought spouses couldn't be in a situation that they had to be involved in could proceedings.
No -- it shows Trayvon was doing the hitting and that is called "assault and battery" and that is a crime.
There is no evidence that Zimmerman threw a punch, but plenty of evidence that Trayvon did.
It does not prove in any way who started the fight.
Well, since the only punches of the night that we have evidence of were thrown by Trayvon, then Trayvon's first punch started it.
Only Trayvon threw punches. So only Trayvon could have started it by throwing his first punch.
Think about it. Really think about it. It might help you.
I have not addressed the evidence or the accusations, so your little agitpropery is wasted on me. Personally, the absence of physical traumam other than the gunshot wound on traytable, compared to the substantial physical trauma on Zimmerman’s body indicate Zimmerman was being assaulted with intent to do major bodily harm. As to why or how it began is not yet established, but if you try to inflict bodiy harm on me like George Zimmerman received, I’ll either kill you with my bare hands or shoot your ass. Now, want to give this another try, agitprop? Slime back to your leftist hole in the wall.
I have not addressed the evidence or the accusations, so your little agitpropery is wasted on me. Personally, the absence of physical trauma other than the gunshot wound on traytable, compared to the substantial physical trauma on Zimmerman’s body indicate Zimmerman was being assaulted with intent to do major bodily harm. As to why or how it began is not yet established, but if you try to inflict bodiy harm on me like George Zimmerman received, I’ll either kill you with my bare hands or shoot your ass. Now, want to give this another try, agitprop? Slime back to your leftist hole in the wall.
I know that we have lowered the standards around here since everyone has been decided to vote for the liberal that is Republican in name only, but come on....when you have 200K and say you have no money for bond. That is a lie at least in the old days.
O’Mara may be wearing body armor as well. I know I would.
Clearly they didn't fear that he was a flight risk or they would have or should have acted sooner. I'll bet the depositions that have been ongoing since May 14th have not been going well for the prosecution, and this was their temper tantrum.
I'm pretty sure that putting out a “Dead or Alive” bounty poster is pretty much against the law.
Heh. It is an odd case that way. The Sanford Police and the most reliable on-scene testimony all supports the accused. The testimony of the police contradicts the state's theory of the case. The state uses DeeDee and Sybrina's voice analysis, in combination with conjecture, to make its case.
I don't see any way the depositions could possibly go well for the state, and they are idiots if they thought otherwise.
OK, let's rephrase and say that it's an apparent fact that Martin attacked Zimmerman.
The assumption of the truth of that fact is the basis of the presumption of innocence which is at the heart of our legal system.
If Zimmerman goes to trial, a self-defense argument will be presented. It will be up to the jury to decide if there is sufficient evidence to contradict the defense's claims of self-defense. That will be the only "genuine proof" you will ever get. So, in reality, your snide request is really nothing more than a statement of the obvious: that a trial has not occurred yet.
The truth of Zimmerman's claim that Martin attacked him, I guess, at least as far as the court is concerned, will be decided by the jury in that trial.
To reiterate, the "genuine proof" you demand is a phantom which will cannot fully materialize until the actual trial occurs. So you can sit there and smugly make a demand which is currently impossible to satisfy. Congratulations.
Currently, however, it is clear that Zimmerman claims he was attacked by Martin. That testimony stands unrefuted. Furthermore, the additional evidence we have access to, such as injuries sustained during the struggle, also seem to support that conclusion.
Conversely, I have not seen anyone, including the prosecution, present any evidence that Zimmerman attacked Martin. So while you can feel confident that no one can realistically meet your impossible standard of "genuine proof" regarding Martin initiating the attack, it really serves no useful purpose, other than to expose your obviously disruptive intent.
We have a biased media and an overreaching prosecution to deal with. If you choose adopt their point of view, that is your business, but don't pretend to be some unbiased seeker of "genuine proof", because that is obviously not what you are after.
Zimmerman and his wife had four recorded conversations about the money. During two of the conversations Mrs. Zimmerman was at their Credit Union and George spoke directly with bank officials.
I assume they were trying to transfer the Paypal money into multiple Credit Union accounts. And I assume they were successful since the Credit Union statements dated 4/19, the day before the bond hearing, showed they had access to over $135,000 in cash.
It can't and won't appear at trial either. There is no independent reliable, credible and trustworthy on-scene eyewitness, no video. The issue cannot be resolved to the standard of proof that wtc911 demands.
No matter, that's not how the law works, nor is it how people resolve uncertainty in serious issues. There is other evidence, plenty of it.
The medical examiner report has some very interesting tidbits:
1. Teeth are natural. We have all seen the picture with gold teeth. They don’t look like a grill to me, but should this be investigated.
2. Trayvon’s pockets & clothes contain one dime. That is all the money he had. Now we all saw him leave the 7-11 with two dollar bills. Where did that money go? Sort of adds to the credibility of the possibility that he bought two blunts, doesn’t it?