Pastor Sentenced To 2 Years In Prison For Teaching That Parents Should Spank Their Children

RE :”There is absolutely no good reason for a pastor to be in jail based upon his religious teaching when the government is supposed to be minimally intrusive with religious matters.”

Except 9 counts of conspiracy to torture defenseless very young children. Calling a crime religious does not make it legal or witch burning would get a pass too. Please don't say you think that is God's work too..

There was no torture and there were no witch burnings. Why exactly do you keep engaging in hyperbole.

FWIW, it has been determined that water-boarding is not torture.

These parents spanked their kids variously with wooden spoons or dowel rods up to half an inch thick. Generally, it left a red mark, and sometimes it left what they called a discoloration that would last 2 days and be gone. They used it as well on infants when they thought they could determine “defiance” in the attitude of the infant.

Caminiti publicly taught this.

My personal belief is that he did not know to distinguish the various usages of the words that are translated as child.

Jesus said, “Let the little children come unto me.” I believe in the Markan version of that pericope that the word used is clearly “infant”. Here Jesus is saying in Mark, “Let the infants come unto me.”

Do I think that Caminiti was making proper distinctions? No, I don’t. But, that is a matter of education and not of imprisonment.

Why do I say that? Because he clearly cautioned that any spanking must be on the meatiest part of the butt. IOW, his intention was to inflict pain but not torment.

So, again, “torture” and “witch burnings” are not a true depiction of the facts of this case.

RE:”FWIW, it has been determined that water-boarding is not torture”

Oh brother,
Next you will tell me that you waterboard your kids for bad grades at the Bible's direction so it is a first amendment issue.

Maybe you should not preach that in public if you like being outside of jail.

The fact that the jury only deliberated for 2 hours on 9 counts of criminal conspiracy tells me, as an attorney, that the jury was working on emotion rather than actually making a determination as to whether the elements of the crime alleged had been met by the prosecution.

Conspiracy requires the jury to review each element of the crime on each count and determine whether or not the elements of the crime were met on each count. They just sat down, appointed a foreman, read the jury instructions (which were authored by the Judge Sumi (not that she had an agenda or anything) and voted to convict on all counts.

There were no deliberations. The verdict was entirely emotional. As is our FRiend Sickoflibs.

Of course there was emotion, your hero is barbaric and evil.

Your comments are similar to those I would expect from one of Philip Caminiti’s relatives out on bail without a rational argument but acting on emotion,

To you: This is protected but other actions that would fit your ‘reasons’ are not protected just because you are not sympathetic to those committing them.

Muslims torture their kids and to you that is a crime because you don't like them, but some demented monster claims they are Christian and you think that is a license for any crime and open ended immunity.

your hero is barbaric and evil.

He's barbaric and evil?

Do you know these people personally? Just curious. You seem to have an awful lot invested in this guy being seen as a depraved criminal.

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