[Houghton M.]

Did you read what I wrote?

Unchosen behavior can result from things that happen to you after birth.

Something can be non-inborn yet also not chosen. All developmental psychological disorders are not inborn but neither are they chosen.

That was exactly what my comment said. You are the one who took a shot. It is my observation that many Evangelicals here on FR and elsewhere refuse to make this distinction. They are shooting themselves in the foot. I’m giving a friendly amendment.

[scottjewell]

Yes, it is a needed amendment. Much needed. This other is self-defeating, and not taken seriously by liberals or the gay movement.

[jboot]

I do not believe that there is any such thing as "unchosen behavior." Anything that you do is a choice, unless you are insane. If you are arguing that homosex attraction is a form of insanity, I might be able to agree with you.

Neither you (or NARTH) gains anything by splitting psychological and hamartiological hairs to stake out a "third way". Those you seek to help will despise you all the more for it, and you will alienate potential allies ("dumb", "hotshot" evangelicals, among others).