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I don't think California will be as Easy a Win For 0bama as He Thinks

Posted on 06/08/2012 11:19:19 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer

I made an interesting observation here in Southern California a few minutes ago.

Background:

We are on vacation here after seeing my #3 son coming back from an overseas deployment in the Marines. FWIW, it was with the 1/4 on a MEU "booze Cruise" in the Western Pacific. I backed into a support pole in the underground garage at the hotel yesterday and made wuite a dent in the passenger door of the rental. I took it to a body shop here in San Clemente so I could get an idea of how much it's gonna cost me.

While waiting for the owner to get me an estimate I was looking at the various cars in the shop. I saw only ONE car with an 0bama sticker, and 5 with Romney or Republican/Libertarian stickers. While yacking with the owner we got to talking about government and he asked me where I was originally from. I told him Texas, and he then told me that if he could get out from under his mortgage here, he'd move his business to the DFW area and get out of here. Quite a few of the business owners here on the beach area have left because of the regulations and taxes. He detests 0bama, as do most business owners here.

I don't think California will be a complete shoo-in for 0bama this fall.


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1 posted on 06/08/2012 11:19:26 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: nuke rocketeer

Oh, please...

Yes it will. So long as it includes L.A. and S.F., California is deep blue and isn’t going anywhere.


2 posted on 06/08/2012 11:23:15 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: nuke rocketeer

You’re seeing a very small slice of the small business community in CA with what you saw.

You’re missing the huge number of mind-numbed robots, Mexicans, welfare queens, environmental loons, and college pinheads et al, that will pull the lever for Obama no matter what.


3 posted on 06/08/2012 11:24:59 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: nuke rocketeer

Ah, yeah, welcome to Orange County - it’s only 10% of the state.


4 posted on 06/08/2012 11:25:56 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: nuke rocketeer
I don't think California will be as Easy a Win For 0bama as He Thinks

It will be EXTREMELY easy for him. I live here in the belly of the beast.

5 posted on 06/08/2012 11:27:42 AM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: nuke rocketeer

Pray for the conservatives in California. You cannot believe how much we suffer.


6 posted on 06/08/2012 11:28:40 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: nuke rocketeer

If you could just lop off the San Francisco Bay Area, California would be a very conservative state.

But sadly, you can’t lop it off!

It is good to keep in mind, though, that there are MILLIONS of conservative in California. The whole state shouldn’t be dismissed as bad. We’re just hostages.


7 posted on 06/08/2012 11:29:15 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: nuke rocketeer

Bam losing Kookifornicate would be a hades frozen over event. Who says conservatives can’t have wild dreams.


8 posted on 06/08/2012 11:29:19 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: nuke rocketeer
California isn't San Clemente, alas. That being said, if Romney really does wind up with more campaign cash than barky it would be nice if he could spend enough in California to force the rats to respond in kind. Anything spent here can't be spent in Florida or Ohio.

Or MI or WI or IA . . .

I have a feeling the Romney campaign has the smarts to manage their spending to achieve the optimal results.

9 posted on 06/08/2012 11:29:19 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: nuke rocketeer

Unless The Big One causes both SF and LA to tumble into the Pacific Ocean, California will never return to the Republican fold.


10 posted on 06/08/2012 11:29:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: nuke rocketeer
"I saw only ONE car with an 0bama sticker, and 5 with Romney or Republican/Libertarian stickers."

Probably in the body shop with vandalism claims.

11 posted on 06/08/2012 11:30:21 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Persevero

“If you could just lop off the San Francisco Bay Area, California would be a very conservative state.”

You’d also have to lop off LA County. Remember, LA is basically SF with Mexicans instead of queers.


12 posted on 06/08/2012 11:31:40 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (To criticize the government is to speak blasphemy against a liberal's god.)
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To: nuke rocketeer

California is SOS. Stuck on stupid.


13 posted on 06/08/2012 11:32:42 AM PDT by Huskrrrr ( the will)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Any appearance by Romney in CA during the campaign should be for one of two reasons only:

1. To campaign with GOP Congressional candidates who actually have a discernible chance to win; and

2. To milk it for fundraising opportunities.

Forget spending resources campaigning. Just like NY, there is no chance of winning there.


14 posted on 06/08/2012 11:32:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: nuke rocketeer

That’s Orange County. Its the island of red in the tidal wave of blue that is California. I love your optimism, but all it means is that Republicans and Conservatives in Orange County will be slightly more gung-ho in 2008.

Now if you saw those bumper stickers in Berkeley or Compton, that would be something!


15 posted on 06/08/2012 11:33:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: nuke rocketeer

LOL! You are in OC which is still one of the most conservative county in the country. But we have 3 mil here, la has 15 mil.

As long as Ca stays one state it is lost. Split east west with OC,SD and the inland counties and you have a very conservative state .... and an even more liberal state.


16 posted on 06/08/2012 11:34:12 AM PDT by TJC (V)
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To: PGR88
Now if you saw those bumper stickers in Berkeley or Compton, that would be something!

Anyone seen sporting a GOP or conservative bumper sticker in Compton would be lucky to get out alive.

17 posted on 06/08/2012 11:34:58 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: forgotten man
Pray for the conservatives in California. You cannot believe how much we suffer.

Oh, I can believe how much as I live in the Vampire State of NY. Granted I live in Western NY (Buffalo area) but it is pretty blue here except in some of the burbs sort of like Cali.

18 posted on 06/08/2012 11:36:02 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: nuke rocketeer
I notice that conservatives are more likely to talk about it.

"Progressives" are still saying "Bush" but have gone all reticent about discussing politics. That's not to say they'll vote for our side but I do think they have lost their hope and change highs and are just marching along.

The real weight behind Obama/socialism in Cal. is the large mass of somehow eligible voters who couldn't debate left versus right if lives depended on it; the ones who speak in terms of 'give me your wallet', 'welfare is work', 'can you loan me another $50 for gas?', 'after 20 years with the county I've earned every nickle of my pension', and 'you'll hear from the union on that!.

19 posted on 06/08/2012 11:36:16 AM PDT by norton
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To: nuke rocketeer
There're two kinds of people in this state - producers who as a group are as conservative as nearly any other region in the country, and takers, who are militant liberals.

The problem is the producers constitute about 40% of the population, and shrinking.

20 posted on 06/08/2012 11:37:35 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
....LA is basically SF with Mexicans instead of queers

LOL!

21 posted on 06/08/2012 11:37:44 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: tflabo
Who says conservatives can’t have wild dreams.

The only way Obama would lose California is if he announced he found Christ, became a Conservative, dumped Biden for Sarah Palin, and jumped to the GOP.

22 posted on 06/08/2012 11:38:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: nuke rocketeer

As I am sure you have heard before, you were in a Republican part of the state.

:(


23 posted on 06/08/2012 11:38:55 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: nuke rocketeer

I would wager that welfare recipients far outnumber small business owners.


24 posted on 06/08/2012 11:39:34 AM PDT by monocle
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To: nuke rocketeer

I would wager that welfare recipients far outnumber small business owners.


25 posted on 06/08/2012 11:39:34 AM PDT by monocle
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To: forgotten man
Pray for the conservatives in California. You cannot believe how much we suffer.

Oh yes we can. I'm still stuck in the middle of the People's Democratic Republic of Illinois.

26 posted on 06/08/2012 11:40:04 AM PDT by Marathoner (If the choice was Obama vs. Satan I'd have to flip a coin.)
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To: forgotten man
Pray for the conservatives in California. You cannot believe how much we suffer.

I lived in the Bay Area for 3.5 years (1997 to 2000). I moved out of CA after my networth had gone down by $2,500 and we wanted to start a family.

27 posted on 06/08/2012 11:40:38 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists works in Utopia Province, riding unicorns to work.)
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To: nuke rocketeer

Rental car companies will charge you a rental fee for the time the car is in the shop for repairs. If it is out 2 weeks getting fixed, you owe them for that two weeks. So your estimate doesn’t begin to cover what you will be charged.


28 posted on 06/08/2012 11:40:47 AM PDT by Kirkwood (It's not a lie. It's a composite.)
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To: nuke rocketeer

The LA basin and SF bay area will elect BHO, because of the way the districts are drawn.
There is a red/blue map of CA for the last election, it is stunning of distorted the voting blocks are.
Being in Santa Barbara, I see lots of BHO bumper stickers, what is different is how many rabid and out spoken the Romney supporters have become.


29 posted on 06/08/2012 11:41:21 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: nuke rocketeer

I read or heard from Michael Barone about each state having their Bellwesther areas. As that area goes so goes the State as the saying goes. It was mentioned that Fresno area is California’s Bellweather area. So watch Fresno — any Fresnoites out there to check in?

With San Jose and San Diego waking up on their ballot initiative last Tuesday (a vote similar to Wis btw) I’d say the tides are turning here — but I sure don’t see it here in LA.


30 posted on 06/08/2012 11:41:45 AM PDT by bunster
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To: nuke rocketeer
You were in a very conservative part of California, not typical of the rest of the state sadly.

On the subject of stickers.......I have noticed several "Obama 2012" but not one "Obama-Biden 2012".

Best wishes to you and thanks to your sons for their service.

31 posted on 06/08/2012 11:42:23 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: nuke rocketeer

I’m in LA County, in the more conservative southwestern corner of it. No Romney yard signs or bumper stickers at all. Some Obama yard signs up already.


32 posted on 06/08/2012 11:43:40 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: forgotten man

I will be moving to CA in two weeks so you will have one more conservative to share your suffering.


33 posted on 06/08/2012 11:44:46 AM PDT by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: ScottinVA
Unless The Big One causes both SF and LA to tumble into the Pacific Ocean, California will never return to the Republican fold.

I wouldn't say never. As long as Obozo is defeated in November, CA should lose a lot of the under-table federal debt support it has received from the Fed. The state will be forced into the situation WI and MI are digging out of. Those states swung republican when they got bad enough.

Illinois may be the state simply eats itself completely.

34 posted on 06/08/2012 11:45:03 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists works in Utopia Province, riding unicorns to work.)
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To: nuke rocketeer

This election is not going to be a blow out as some of you assume. First of all it is June. Second of all, we have a Republican Candidate that nobody wants. Third of all our country is split. The reason that Walker did well is because the Democrats who voted for Walker (and yes there were many) thought it was bull crap that this was even happening. It is going to be a very close race.


35 posted on 06/08/2012 11:45:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: nuke rocketeer

While it is unlikely Obama will lose California, the GOP is going to do better than most think. Already the chances for Dems to pick up an extra Congressional seat has been set back when the targeted seat for a pick-up ended up with two Republicans in the runoff! The Dems are kicking themselves for their new idiotic voting system.

Also, Californians are seeing day in and day out the failures of their Democratrically-run state and more independents are turning against the Dems. Plus, illegal Mexicans have for years actually been going back home because there’s little or not work for them.

Plus, look at the votes in San Jose and San Diego. Voters there “got it.” The margins were staggering. I think someone could run for governor and other high offices on a platform of bringing public sector unions under control and cutting back benefits and win in California. Clearly the public is totally fed up with the fat cat public sector unions and workers.

Plus, the failure of the cigarette tax to pass shows the California is not completely and utterly lost. That was a good sign. The voters could see through the phony claim that the money would be used for cancer research. Yeah, right.


36 posted on 06/08/2012 11:45:55 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: nuke rocketeer
Problem is the nitwits in Hollywood will never be educated in the Constitution that is the blueprint for America. And these screwballs have saturated so many of the programs in the media that they have a huge platform to spread their garbage. Keeps millions of Californians stupid.
37 posted on 06/08/2012 11:45:55 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Tenacious 1
I lived in the Bay Area for 3.5 years (1997 to 2000). I moved out of CA after my networth had gone down by $2,500 and we wanted to start a family.

Which city? I was born in Napa and grew up in Vallejo.

38 posted on 06/08/2012 11:46:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: married21

I (in Santa Monica) am afraid to put up yard signs. I have a large window that faces the street and a rock was thrown into over (I guess) some yard signs I had for a local election that was NON-PARTISAN council seat.


39 posted on 06/08/2012 11:47:18 AM PDT by bunster
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To: bunster

“With San Jose and San Diego waking up on their ballot initiative last Tuesday (a vote similar to Wis btw) I’d say the tides are turning here — but I sure don’t see it here in LA.”

I live in San Jose, and it’s not quite as lefty-looney as SF or Berkeley. But for quite a while I used to describe myself as “one of twenty-three conservatives in the Bay Area”, and it seemed to be pretty close to true. But since BHO came along, it seems I run into more “out and proud” conservatives here in the Bay Area than I used to.


40 posted on 06/08/2012 11:48:26 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (To criticize the government is to speak blasphemy against a liberal's god.)
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To: nuke rocketeer

In my twice daily, 45 minute comute to work each day (albeit only 12 miles)I have yet to see a Romney bumper sticker. And I do pass the time by looking at bumpers! This is in the San Fernando Valley.


41 posted on 06/08/2012 11:49:53 AM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: WashingtonSource
Californians are seeing day in and day out the failures of their Democratrically-run state and more independents are turning against the Dems.

Some are, but not enough of them. My sister has the unfortunate circumstance of having to live there and the people she works with are still rabid libs who are convinced everything will be fine if Sacramento would just tax the "rich" a lot more (never mind many of the "rich" are trying to escape that state).

42 posted on 06/08/2012 11:49:59 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: ScottinVA

Redwood City.


43 posted on 06/08/2012 11:50:31 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists works in Utopia Province, riding unicorns to work.)
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To: nuke rocketeer

My hat’s off to conservatives who try to make a go of living out there. I will never move back.


44 posted on 06/08/2012 11:51:36 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Tenacious 1

I moved out of CA after my networth had gone down by $2,500

That really is significant. I am glad you left but 2500? That does not seem like a lot to me in the big scheme of life.


45 posted on 06/08/2012 11:52:16 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: bunster
I (in Santa Monica) am afraid to put up yard signs.

Shameful we have to live in that environment now. In time, people out there will be made to fear speaking English or practicing Christianity.

46 posted on 06/08/2012 11:54:59 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: nuke rocketeer

So I see you are forecasting simultaneous 7.0 earthquakes in LA and SF on election day that will disrupt voting?


47 posted on 06/08/2012 11:56:24 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: k omalley
I will be moving to CA in two weeks so you will have one more conservative to share your suffering.

You have my most sincere sympathy.

48 posted on 06/08/2012 11:59:04 AM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: k omalley
I will be moving to CA in two weeks so you will have one more conservative to share your suffering.

There's not enough money..... there's not enough hot chick's "sweaty thigh".... there's not fame or fortune that would ever have me relocate to CA.

49 posted on 06/08/2012 11:59:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: nuke rocketeer

I live in Southern CA - born & raised in Riverside County the largest county in So Cal and is mostly conservative...California has a big conservative population BUT Los Angeles and San Fran totally negate this. Oh well the weather ROCKS. ;)


50 posted on 06/08/2012 12:01:33 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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