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To: raybbr

Read the links if you want to set the record straight. ALL — yes, ALL the Catholic Bishops came out AGAINST the HHS mandate.

The facts are in those links. All FR links, BTW!


11 posted on 06/11/2012 8:03:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; Campion
I know they came out against the mandate. That's the only thing they didn't like about the bill. They supported everything else but the mandate. Also, note in the link I provided they want "immigrants" covered, too. The bishops are nitpicking the bill.

From the above link: (Parenthetical bold comments are mine)

Ultimately the House of Representatives approved a health care reform bill that the bishops welcomed for substantially meeting most of the principles and goods we were espousing. 

(They approved of the bill from the House. They WANTED it.)

We hoped to address final concerns as the legislation moved forward.  However, the Senate rejected the House legislation, including the key elements that we supported, and produced a bill that abandoned the very principles that we espoused: no expansion of abortion, protections for freedom of conscience and the rights of immigrants.  With these foundational principles rejected, it was then announced that no further substantive changes were possible.  From that moment on, the bishops were clear and consistent in saying that this “take it or leave it” offer was morally unacceptable and politically divisive.  Whatever might be the positive aspects of the Senate bill, we had no choice but to oppose the Senate version as a matter of principle.  As bishops we must faithfully proclaim the truth.  We must defend the rights of the unborn and the weakest and most vulnerable among us.  We must oppose the advance of elective abortion in our society, especially the use of government authority and funding to advance it, and we must speak out in favor of the rights of freedom of conscience for persons and institutions.  We urged Congress to vote against this version of the bill, with the hope that together we could find a way to address our legitimate concerns in a bill which would thus have broader appeal and greater support.  Unfortunately, the political will to do so did not emerge.

The final result is legislation that expands health care coverage, implements many needed reforms, and provides welcome support for pregnant and parenting women and adoptive families. 

(Again. They approved of the House bill - they supported it)

Unfortunately it also perpetuates grave injustices toward immigrant families

("grave injustices toward 'immigrants' meaning illegals)
and makes new and disturbing changes in federal policy on abortion and conscience rights.  We have documented the legislation’s serious flaws in several analyses available on the bishops’ web site, www.usccb.org/healthcare.


Say what you want. The bishops have made it clear they want govt run healthcare except for abortions.
17 posted on 06/12/2012 4:21:32 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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