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Zimmerman 'does not properly respect the law,' judge says in order revoking bond
Orlando Sentinal ^ | June 12, 2012 | Jeff Weiner

Posted on 06/12/2012 9:02:42 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara

The judge who revoked George Zimmerman's bond did so after he determined that it was "apparent" that Zimmerman's wife had lied under oath, and clear that Zimmerman "does not properly respect the law."

Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester revoked Zimmerman's bond on June 1, but his written order was filed Monday. In it, Lester lays out his rationale.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: moehoward
Yes, by the April 27th hearing, the funds had been transferred out of the family's control entirely.

Since George was in hiding, the PayPal account may or may not have been in the exclusive control of his brother. We should find out more at the June 29th hearing.

Yes, it would appear from the (possibly edited) transcripts from the jailhouse phone records that at least some of the money had been transferred into George and/or Shellie's account before the bond revocation hearing on June 1. I don't remember the details. And I also don't trust the prosecution's transcripts, since they edited Shellie's testimony at the original bail hearing to remove her offer to get the brother-in-law on the phone to confirm the PayPal account.

Since Judge Lester did not give GZ or MOM the opportunity to prepare for the bail revocation hearing, we have no way of knowing what was going through GZ or SZ’s minds. Since they solicited the money for legal fees and living expenses, they may have thought it would be fraud to use the money for bail. Who knows? Hopefully, we will find out more on June 29th.

301 posted on 06/12/2012 11:58:19 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: ozzymandus
The “kid” attacked him, Einstein. Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle when the “kid” attacked him. If Zimmerman hadn’t had a (legal) gun, he would have been killed, and you’d have to be stupid about something else.

Zimmerman did the proper and moral thing -- he killed an evil thug who was attempting kill him. All thugs should be dispatched in such manner.

An armed society is a polite society. I wish everyone was armed.

The evil left has corroded our society to the point that America is close to being pushed into a third-world sewer. The evil left's Great Society programs have breed countless psychopathic deviants such as Trayvon.

302 posted on 06/12/2012 12:00:24 PM PDT by sand88
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To: All

Well, it’s reached about 300, time for me to go, got stuff to do.

I appreciate all the warm things you guys have said today. I’ll try and remember them the next time.

Thanks all for re-confirming that which I already knew.

Seriesly though, if anyone can come up with that troll list, I’d like to see it...toodles


303 posted on 06/12/2012 12:02:10 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: treetopsandroofs

Another indication that he’s left of center is found in his description of himself. From his own profile. I find this interesting for someone who wants to run with the conservatives:

“I have usually voted Republican, but will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party, or not vote — I am over 60, post-college educated — I believe in one God, but I do not adhere to any organized religious belief — Depending on where I am, I occasionally go to Mass, Mosques, and Temples because I find the atmospheres pleasant and conducive to thinking, although I have not visited any since 9/11 — I do not believe there is a hell, and I hope there is an afterlife.”


304 posted on 06/12/2012 12:02:25 PM PDT by History Repeats (If Obama had a son, he'd have his picture hanging on the wall of the Post office wanted board.)
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To: DoughtyOne
We need a lot more Zimmerman’s out there. If criminals know they may just wind up dead after doing things they shouldn’t, perhaps they’ll avoid doing things they shouldn’t. Travon had no business beating Zimmerman’s head on the pavement. I view that as attempted murder. Good on Zimmerman for ending the life of someone with a hair trigger, that didn’t know better than to do this sort of thing. All this proves, is that Zimmerman was a lot better judge of character than many people are. He was dead right to keep his eye on this stick of dynamite.

Bravo for an excellent post. Your logic is impeccable.

305 posted on 06/12/2012 12:04:45 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Scoutmaster
You are right that the autopsy lists Trayvon's body length (not height) as 71"s. He sure looks taller than that.

For comparison notice the door behind him. Standard door height is 6' 8"s. Given the perspective from the photograph the door should look even taller than it actually is compared to Trayvon.

306 posted on 06/12/2012 12:05:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: MileHi; stuartcr
What is the point of that stupid statement? GZ did nothing wrong. TM is responsible for what happened. Stop being obtuse.

Great. Now stuart has to take time out to look up "obtuse".

MileHi FTW!

stuartcr for thefail!

307 posted on 06/12/2012 12:10:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: stuartcr; Red Steel
I’d like to think I’ve been getting better.

After your performance today, that's a futile thought.

308 posted on 06/12/2012 12:11:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: stuartcr

I don’t know or care who BB is, but exposing your deception and lies has been FUN!


309 posted on 06/12/2012 12:13:16 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: stuartcr

****.


310 posted on 06/12/2012 12:13:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: stuartcr
Please substitute vehicle for car in anything I said. Better?

Please read actual information about the Zimmerman case before posting.

Better?

311 posted on 06/12/2012 12:14:50 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil
Now stuart has to take time out to look up "obtuse".

LOL! For the purpose of this thread, "trolling" is close enough.

312 posted on 06/12/2012 12:15:16 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: treetopsandroofs

BB King


313 posted on 06/12/2012 12:17:36 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

Thanks.


314 posted on 06/12/2012 12:19:19 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: stuartcr
Just think, none of this would have happened if they both or either one, had done things differently!!!

That is the logic of a five year old opining "what if the world never existed?"
It doesn't lead to knowledge or wisdom of anything. It's the intellectual equivalent of a dog chasing its own tail. It's a journey between point A and point A covering no ground in between.

"Just think, if the girl didn't look good she never would have been raped."

Same thing. It's just a means for turning cause and effect on its head and blaming the existence of people for what happens to people while they exist.

315 posted on 06/12/2012 12:19:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Uncle Chip
More like a 4 inch height difference.

I think there's a 3" difference (but certainly not 7"). Compare actual measurement versus actual measurement instead of what somebody claimed versus actual measurement.

Trayvon's DL is based on what he said. If you're 5'11", as the autopsy showed, and you're a guy, you're likely to say 6'0". I certainly have a brother who does.

Or maybe Trayvon was 6'0".

It doesn't excuse FR members from frequently saying Trayvon was 6"-7" taller - and we keep seeing FR members state that Trayvon was 6'-3" or 6'-4".

We've been annoyed at false statements that keep being repeated by the media and those who want to lynch Zimmerman. We shouldn't continue to repeat similar false statements that favor Zimmerman.

316 posted on 06/12/2012 12:20:48 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: stuartcr
Just think if he’d turned then and finished the conversation in his car?

So, now you're admitting that he wasn't in his truck when the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that?" Thereby admitting that your previous posts claiming that the dispatcher told him to stay in his "car" were deliberate falsehoods.

317 posted on 06/12/2012 12:26:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: stuartcr; Sudetenland
Of course they do, even the kid

We're not discussing any "kid" on this thread.

You were probably defending Adam Flanders over on this thread (WEB COMPANY CENSORS 'PUBLIC' LETTER), and mistakenly wandered over here.

Adam is "into" kids, and we're sure you wouldn't let his views go undefended - after all, everybody over there is just "agreeing with each other"...

No need to thank me for pointing out your "wrong thread" post - happy to be helpful! :-)

318 posted on 06/12/2012 12:28:59 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Aunt Polgara
-- What do you think he's going to do at the bail hearing on 6/29? --

Whatever he feels like doing. It seems he doesn't feel obliged to adhere to binding precedent or statutory law. I don't recall him finding the state's case met the " guilt is evident or the presumption great" standard, and that's a pre-requisite for denial of bail.

I'm working my way through FL precedent on other conditions that support denial of bond, like danger to the community and flight risk. I'd like to find authority for the proposition that Zimmerman's disrespect is adequate justification for denial of bail. I mean, if he shows up out of fear of punishment (rather than out of respect), he still submitting to the court. I'd show up at court, myself, and as far as I'm concerned, the court is presumed full of self important dishonest pricks.

I think he'll grant bail. If he doesn't know he risks reversal of this opinion, he's quite a bit less intelligent than I credited him with. But then, seems he's indifferent about being reversed on appeal.

-- If he raises the bond, where will the money come from? --

It ends up being a new bond. He has to do the same "how much do you have" routine, again, and Zimmerman has $15,000 less now than he did the first time around. Maybe the bail bondsman is Lester's brother in law or something.

-- If he refuses to allow bond, that sounds like being punitive ... --

He's hemmed in by the FL constitution, FL statutes, and FL Supreme Court precedent. He has to make a certain finding in order to justify denial of bail. To the best of my recollection, he hasn't come close to making any finding that supports denial of bail.

319 posted on 06/12/2012 12:35:25 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: kiryandil; Tublecane
Sorry but "supposition" is not proof. I've seen plenty of fights wherein the guy who started it got his ass kicked.

If you have actual proof instead of supposition then please provide it.

320 posted on 06/12/2012 12:35:32 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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