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To: berdie
I don’t think the provision of food and shelter should be a lifelong experience. I have experience with Section 8 rental properties. I know what happens. A “step up” with certain limitations and criteria should be available.

Help should be provided, but only in such fashion that people would rather do just about anything else than accept it; the penalty for accepting it, though, should be short-term rather misery rather than long-term harm or indebtedness, such that accepting the help will give people the impetus to ensure that won't need it again, rather than crippling them so they will.

53 posted on 06/16/2012 12:37:34 AM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: supercat
I've told this story before. When my BLIND Aunt lost her job (sewing garments at a Sweat Shop in Brooklyn in the late 40’s), she was living in squalor. Her younger Brother, was living with her at the time and they were scraping by on the little money he earned.

My Parents had no extra money to help, so my Mother told my Father to take my Aunt to the Welfare Office to get some help. My Aunt would have no part of it, so my Father had to force her to go with him. She was embarrassed to have to go on the Dole, even though there was little else she could do. My Aunt received $10 a week for about six months until she found another job. To this day at age 89, she still thinks about how bad it made her feel to take that money. I still shake my head in disbelief when I see so many able bodied people with their hands out. I learned early on that nobody owes you a living. Now we have Politicians and a willing Electorate that feels much differently. Since the Safety Net has turned into a Hammock, shame has turned into entitlement with no end. Debit Cards replace Food Stamps because we don't want anyone to feel embarrassed. Now through Presidential Decree, Illegal Aliens can legally take the Jobs of Taxpaying Citizens while the Press goes after a Reporter who asked a question of Pharaoh Obama out of turn. It has to be a nightmare or an epidemic of Stupid.

54 posted on 06/16/2012 1:24:00 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: supercat

At one time it was not seen as respectable to accept help. How we return to those days will be tough.


57 posted on 06/16/2012 4:11:12 PM PDT by berdie
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