Posted on 06/13/2012 9:08:22 AM PDT by blam
Sorry, I don't know either. I'll guess that it's something like a 'hay-seed'.(?)
I know of one; but as soon as I tell where it is, it won't be safe any more.
I loved the term “parentsites” in the article.
You make a good point.
When the SHTF, individual survival means everything.
At that point, patriots, neighbors, and I would seen in extreme situations even your own family will turn and attack. It’s simple human nature.
Not saying that humans aren’t capable of altruism and loyalty, of course they are; but you can’t eat loyalty or honor.
You can eat Fred. Or George. Or whomever. Or alternatively, kill them and take their stuff.
I take a fairly sanguine view of humanity. People will and do band together for the sake of ideal, and we’ve seen that throughout human history, from the American Revolution to the Battle of Thermopolye, from the Bolsheviks to the Nazis; right or wrong, people will cooperate when and idea is on the line.
Take the idea out of the picture, and replace it with raw human survival, then all bets are off. I would modify the headline to read, “It’s Entirely Possible That Nowhere On Earth Is A Safe Redoubt”.
I got the impression 'clover' referred to the pro-government control freaks that were taking over the rural areas...
I can’t find ANYTHING regarding ‘clovers’...might it mean c(ity)lovers?
The socialist scum who are always demanding other peoples’ wealth will be the serfs after the collapse. They are just too stupid to realize gubmint won’t save them.
Ah, if I could only describe to you where I live and the surrounding area...
I own an entire finger of a plateau, about 90 feet over the valley below. You can’t see my house unless you come up a road that, when we first saw it, were a little afraid we were going to come up on a house with an old guy on the porch with a shotgun in his lap just itchin’ to shoot him some city slickers driving one of those new-fangled horseless carriages.
Now we like it that way.
My neighbors have no idea how much money I make, and we all think alike, politically. They are as prepared as I am (some much more so). We are far enough from the liberal areas that the starving hordes would have to get through many people like me to get to me. It would cull the herd.
But, ultimately, “safe” is a meaningless word without a qualifier. We’re a LOT safer than Seattle or its burbs, which is where I lived for 45 years. We considered Wyoming for tax (and other) reasons. My sister and her husband live next to Mel Gibson’s old place in Montana and actually bought it from him a few years ago. They’re ready as one could expect. Kentucky (the part we are in) is actually pretty safe, and our property is safer than most here, but it is also spectacularly beautiful. And with an elevation of ~1,000 feet, it’s more comfortable, heat-wise, than some areas around here.
We moved here for two reasons.
1. If we do not have a SHTF event, it is a beautiful and wonderful place to live.
2. If the SHTF, it has everything we need to be self sufficient and be “relatively” safe. e.g. we get enough rain that nobody waters their lawns here, but we get it like Hawaii. In fact, this area is very much like Hawaii without the ocean.
And remember, when you bury your PM’s put a layer of old nails a foot or so above it so those with metal detectors think the nails are what they were picking up... ;-)
I guess the Bushes knew something when they bought their little 100,000 acre rancho in Paraguay.
clover=sheep?
Our taxes are being raised 10% (legally 10% but with fuzzy math and rounding up it’s a bit more which calculates into way more over the course of time) for the benefit of “others” here. We used to fund our VFW with bake sales and garage sales but they did away with that and went with government grants and taxes which they can’t seem to be able to survive on so are sending out nasty letters demanding a few hundred dollar yearly ransoms if you want them to come out to water down the embers of your home.
There’s a huge percent of illegals so there goes our schools and health facilities. Then we got in a bunch of Katrina “victims” who are building their own compound with free land that falls under church exempt status. Excuse me but just how can they justify a couple dozen brand new houses as the tax free church parsonage? Then there’s the city sprawl that’s eased itself out here. Along with the sprawl comes the libs and other general wackos with all their restrictions and regulations and stooopid ideas. At one time I could count the cars I passed on the way to town on one hand. Today, there’s traffic. While there are still pockets of boonies out there, they are getting few and far between.
>>>It’s entirely possible that nowhere in North America is a safe redoubt.<<<
The real question is, where would it be safer? If the SHTF, and the power of the US basically gone outside the US, would you want to be an expat gringo in Mexico? How about Thailand?
My brother has four acres in Honduras. Would that be safer?
I’m fine with rural KY, at least an hour from any major population center. We all speak English and there are plenty of new and used parts for my stuff.
—Live or die, I’m staying here on my ground.
And I know it better than most. I can navigate without night vision on a moonless, cloudy night. I know every dog for blocks, I know every tree, every rock in the creek.
My ground. I’ll stand on it or die.—
Just an observation. I find it interesting that this kind of talk would have sounded looney or have just been assumed to be sarcasm just six or so years ago. Now it is very common and perceived by no small minority to be reasonable and prudent for our times.
Sometimes I think some of us are like animals that sense and earthquake before it happens.
Yep. Useful idiots.
That makes sense, as well...
And, Ted Turner's 10,000 acre compound in Patagonia. Some years back, Ted was asked what the compound in Patagonia is for, he answered (laughingly), the revolution.
BTW, Ted just lost his title as the largest private landowner in the USA.
a marauding looter from the ‘hood would have a life expectancy of about 4 seconds in this place...
Well, they didn't like what they saw and did something about it.
Those who liked the way it was were used to not doing anything about it, so when something happened they were disinclined to do anything about it.
"...for good men to do nothing."
Agreed.
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