“A seeker of truth should never see gentle, truthful rebuke or rebuttal as anything other than concern and love.”
Of course, but that isn’t what I’m talking about. Mockery, insults, the intellectual dishonesty of repeating in thread after thread accusation that have already been rebutted, the refusal to give honest consideration to anything said in reply, those are not the actions of somebody filled with concern and love. Look at the replies to this thread, a LOT of people see the hate fueled Mormon bashing for what it is.
“Nope, I won’t let them believe this”
Good luck with that, they’ll make up their own minds.
“But answer me this; How is mormonism to be considered a “third branch of Christianity” when mormons claim and have claimed since its inception that it’s a “complete restoration”?”
Same way we consider Catholicism and Protestantism to be part of Christianity, we are the branch that is correct :).
Catholics claim exclusive authority from Peter but that doesn’t seem to be an issue.
“Again, what you see as “hatred” and “garbage”, I see as rebuke. “
Well, if you are trying to rebuke somebody out of love and all they perceive is hatred then you are not doing a very good job, are you? Perhaps you could try to learn from your mistakes so you can be more effective.
Sorry, but that's not the way it works. You can't deny basic Biblical doctrine, even down to the nature of God, and call yourself Christian. Believe whatever you want, but to be Christian (as Protestants and Catholics ARE) you have to go with the doctrine that exists instead of making up your own. No matter how much you say it won't make it so.
And as for Romney, I don't care who votes for him. But I'm not going to go along with the campaign to suddenly whitewash him and make him "conservative". He's an abortion pusher and a homosexual lover; that is his history and his record, no matter how inconvenient that might be for you. It's only been a few weeks since he said that "people of the same gender who LOVE each other" should be able to adopt children. Again, if you're comfortable casting a vote for that, go for it. But I will have nothing to do with him.
Advice from Grig, whose original post and all those following reek of hatred and condemnation of other FReepers.
More irrational appeals to emotion. See, I don't play those games. Claiming that others are being intellectually dishonest, while you yourself are engaged in the same, doesn't do much for your credibility.
"Well, if you are trying to rebuke somebody out of love and all they perceive is hatred then you are not doing a very good job, are you?"
A disappointing, but expected reply. I see that you are still trying to drop the blame at others' feet.
Funny thing, mormons will tell gentiles, to read and pray about the BoM, but when you yourselves are challenged by non-mormons, it's "hatred" to do so? Just how does this work in your world Grig?
How is it that I'm still responsible for your inability to process the information without it being perceived as "hatred"? Cognitive dissonance.
The problem with mormons such as yourself, is that you want it both ways. You want to be able to tell yourselves that you are the only correct church, send 50k+ missionaries out telling others the same and then say that any who refute, rebuke or reject what you believe are guilty of "hatred".
Stop the pity party already, your false prophet and subsequent false prophets did all they could to degrade Christians and Christianity. This "persecution" complex mormons have built up to defend/deflect criticism is pathetic.
Read the words of your own prophets who challenged people to challenge mormonism, to "bring it".
Yeah!!
What YOU said!
The
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 71
Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.
1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.
1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.
2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.
3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.
4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.
5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;
6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.
7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.
8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.
9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;
10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.
11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.
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