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FTA:Instead of complaining about Obama’s decision, Conservatives should applaud anything which increases government inaction. Meanwhile Democrats who applaud the President’s decision for the short-term advantage it might give them, should be very wary of handing a precedential hammer to a future Republican president who could use it to smash big government.
1 posted on 06/17/2012 12:04:44 PM PDT by lbryce
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Democrats tried to pass the Dream Act which is Amnesty for illegals. Republicans blocked it in Congress. Now Obama passes the Dream act by edict . Obama did this against the will of congress and of the American people. Obama is illegally aiding the foreign invasion. This act by Obama is treason, illegal, and an injustice. Obama must be impeached. Now every 3rd world moron who is under 30 will move to America. It is a dictator and the media covers for it.


2 posted on 06/17/2012 12:09:49 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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NO!!! Patrick, by ignoring Congress, Obama is “reshaping the power of the presidency.” Obama is behaving like he's a Pharaoh!
3 posted on 06/17/2012 12:10:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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“a future Republican president who could use it to smash big government”

BUT THEY NEVER DO. THEY ALWAYS LET THE DEMOCRATS DO WHATEVER, THEN WHEN THEY GET IN OFFICE THEY DO NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING.

“I happen to believe that the United States would be better off with greatly expanded legal immigration opportunities”

EXACTLY. HE’S AN IMMIGRATIONIST WHO IS HAPPY WITH THIS AMNESTY


4 posted on 06/17/2012 12:11:28 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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Obama just turned the U.S.. into a dictatorship. And it also gave Amnesty to illegals by decree. Obama must be impeached and jailed for this not applauded.


5 posted on 06/17/2012 12:13:52 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: All

Winning by Losing


6 posted on 06/17/2012 12:16:37 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way of Trinity, NM)
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I could applaud an honest refusal to execute unconstitutional laws, when coupled with suitable filings for Supreme Court review.
Gratuitous refusal to execute established laws without legal reasoning and for plain political gain is grounds for immediate impeachment.

This is a line in the sand for many.


7 posted on 06/17/2012 12:23:16 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: lbryce
Conservatives should applaud anything which increases government inaction.

This isn't Obama telling the EPA to look the other way. Border control and immigration control are legitimate duties of government.
9 posted on 06/17/2012 12:31:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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No, Mr. Krum, this is not an action Republicans should "applaud."

In America, where every elected representative swears to uphold the Constitution's protections of the rights and liberties of all, there is no "admirable" action if, by that action, the person who does it violates the Constitution's limits and bounds on his/her power, and his/her required oath of office.

Under the Constitution's separation of powers, the legislative branch (representatives of the people) makes laws and the executive branch executes those laws.

The President has a knack for setting up straw arguments which, when analyzed, turn out to be designed for political purposes. As we now know, the so-called "health care" bill was only a ruse and Trojan Horse for increasing government power and control of the economy and individuals in that economy. This action is no different. By its very nature, it masks the real Constitutional principle being violated in this "legislation" disguised as Executive Order.

Now is the time for all who love liberty to dedicate themselves to a new understanding of the Constitution's limits on the power of elected representatives, including the President of the United States. The Founders warned that usurpers might sacrifice the Creator-endowed rights and liberties of "the People," in order to assert coercive power over them. That is why they wrote a Constitution which only could be amended as prescribed in the document itself.

Justice Story declared in his "Commentaries on the Constitution . . ." that "the People" are the only Keepers of the Constitution, and if they do not retain that right, but allow a President to flout its provisions and act in violation of its limitations, then freedom will be lost.

This President seems irritated that the Constitution does not allow him to take arbitrary actions to impose policies he believes in. Republicans need to be grounded enough in Constitutional principles to defend the Constitution they swore to uphold, and bold enough to challenge assaults upon those principles.

"Until the people have, by some solemn and authoritative act, annulled or changed the established form, it is binding upon them collectively, as well as individually; and no presumption or even knowledge of their sentiments, can warrant their representatives [the executive, judiciary, or legislature]; in a departure from it prior to such an act." - Alexander Hamilton

In the first of the eighty-five "Federalist Papers," Alexander Hamilton emphasized that:

"... it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection or choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force."


11 posted on 06/17/2012 12:39:56 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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Hmmn, now why did’t I think of that?

Obama Waves His Presidential Mariachi and Frees the Illegal Dreamers

Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:18:54 AM · 10 of 10
Sea Parrot to NOBO2012

I know nothing will be done to Obama and he will skate free.

But, Obama has now set the precedent, and what goes around comes around.

Will be interesting to see how the LSM and lefties react when a republican president uses Obama’s tactics to circumvent liberal laws &c?


14 posted on 06/17/2012 12:48:01 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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Following this logic, Obama’s refusal to enforce the law sets the precedent for Romney to jail abortionists. Right?


15 posted on 06/17/2012 12:49:10 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: lbryce

Obama issued an executive order that has the same effect as Congress passing the Dream Act Amnesty. This is an unlawful, treasonous,impeachable offense and a it is a crime. This turns the U.S.A into a dictatorship. It must not stand.


17 posted on 06/17/2012 12:50:50 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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This is a lot different from the President deciding how to enforce a law that Congress has passed. This is the President making his own laws that contradict the existing ones, because he couldn’t get the changes he wants passed through Congress.


21 posted on 06/17/2012 12:59:18 PM PDT by Boogieman
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I think that most conservatives believe that the federal government should function in strict adherence to the US Constitution.

Regardless of what the president thinks about the immigration laws, it is not up to him to decide which laws his administration will enforce and which to ignore. When he took the oath of office, he swore to faithfully execute all of the laws passed by the US Congress. To willfully ignore to enforce any law breaks that oath. Only the US Congress can change the law. He must work with Congress if he wants changes. Declaring to not deport certain illegal immigrants and issuing them work permits is probably unconstitutional.

Advocating that presidents should break their oath of office and refuse to enforce any law that they don’t like would just invite chaos and anarchy. Endless impeachment proceedings, petitions to the SCOTUS to intervene. That’s no way for a great country to run a government.

I believe the founding fathers got it right. Let the laws be written by the people’s representatives in Congress, and then have those laws enforced to the best ability of the president as sworn when taking office.


24 posted on 06/17/2012 1:01:38 PM PDT by Synthesist
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“Free men should always question whether or not a law still makes sense. And if one determines that it does not, it is his duty to violate it.” That statement is ludicrous and is applicable only when anarchy prevails. Failure to enforce existing law merely makes a mockery of all laws. Obama may as well pick another segment of society and exempt them from stopping at stop signs when they don’t see any traffic coming. Just exempt California from Federal Drug laws. Why not exempt a few million people from the IRS code? Apparently, he has already exempted a number of people from the National Security regulations of the Executive branch. Selective enforcement of the laws, passed by Congress and signed into law by the Executive, is then the law of the land. His job is to enforce those laws. Not just the ones he likes. He should be impeached now.


43 posted on 06/17/2012 5:06:20 PM PDT by Temujinshordes
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This is taking the cream of the illegal immigrant crop (educated and speaks English) and hamstringing them with work permits that expire in two years. Even a Dreamer with a college degree would have trouble finding work that Americans would do. So the Dreamers will be in competition with American Citizens entering or re-entering the work force.


45 posted on 06/17/2012 5:22:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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This is taking the cream of the illegal immigrant crop (educated and speaks English) and hamstringing them with work permits that expire in two years. Even a Dreamer with a college degree would have trouble finding work that Americans would do. So the Dreamers will be in competition with American Citizens entering or re-entering the work force.


46 posted on 06/17/2012 5:23:02 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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They will howl when a future president decides not to enforce portions of EPA or endangered species laws.


47 posted on 06/17/2012 5:35:55 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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The brilliant JEffersonian military procurement policies, which led to DC being burned.

Jefferson was a limousine liberal.

61 posted on 06/17/2012 10:55:37 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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There is NO “law” here that Obama is refusing to “enforce”. He is making NEW law and countermanding the Constitution’s express power ceded to CONGRESS to establish rules of “Naturalization” in Article 1, Section 8. The author of this article is a propagandist. Don’t be fooled.


63 posted on 06/18/2012 5:22:24 AM PDT by montag813 (Stop the Obama Amnesty. www.StandWithArizona.com)
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