Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Conservatives target Republicans who back gay marriage: 'You could lose your career'
MSNBC ^ | June 24 2012 | Miranda Letsinger

Posted on 06/24/2012 4:53:45 AM PDT by scottjewell

Brian Brown, executive director of NOM, doesn't shy away from the fact his group is hoping to intimidate wavering lawmakers into opposing gay marriage.

“The message is clear, that supporting same-sex marriage is a losing issue, not a winning issue,” Brown told msnbc.com. “You could lose your career over supporting same-sex marriage.”

He also doesn't buy the argument that gay marriage is a settled issue in New York, even though a May 2012 poll by Quinnipac University found the state's voters support same-sex marriage 54 to 37 percent.

"If we don’t get a vote this year, we’re going to work to get one next year. We’re not going away," Brown said. "I think it’s just wishful thinking to say that once you have same-sex marriage the fight’s over. It’s not."

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conservatives; gop; homosexualagenda; samesexmarriage
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last
Comment #1 Removed by Moderator

To: scottjewell

talk about a losing battle.....


2 posted on 06/24/2012 4:57:06 AM PDT by brivette
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: brivette

You mean Brown’s is the losing battle? I guess many would view it that way at this juncture... Time will tell...


3 posted on 06/24/2012 5:06:58 AM PDT by scottjewell (homosexual agenda,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

“Elected official” is not a career, or at least it shouldn’t be.


4 posted on 06/24/2012 5:11:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Spinach at every meal.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell
People who promote mental illness as a lifestyle are simply setting us up for the next Sandusky or Jeffry Dahmer. They are builing politically correct societal constructs that will prevent us from saving hundreds, perhaps thousands of innocent lives from molestation, rape and murder.

This is an unspeakable evil that they left promotes as a "lifestyle just like the rest of us".

The great deceiver is laughing...

5 posted on 06/24/2012 5:12:52 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

Well, JC Penney backed the gay agenda and look what has happened to them. The fight isn’t lost ... 2% or less of the population should not be the tail wagging the dog. The 2% are agile, hostile & mobile .... and overplaying their hand - a good example is what they did in the WH recently. Those pictures need to go viral. Folks need to stand up and speak up for what is ‘right’, not go along to get along with the political correctness that will rip apart the moral fabric of the country and ultimately contribute to its destruction.


6 posted on 06/24/2012 5:27:09 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MissMagnolia
I hope Penneys goes totally broke. How dare they promote that cr** on "moral Americans".

Since when is morality a phobia???

7 posted on 06/24/2012 5:29:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell; brivette
You mean Brown’s is the losing battle?

Well at that rate why don't you just tell us yourself, "homosexual agenda scottjewel."


8 posted on 06/24/2012 5:30:42 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Agamemnon

I hope Brown’s is not a losing battle.

I think the worst of it is that the gay rights agenda has been framed as simply a civil rights issue, without any thought to what is being dismantled and made more and more disordered in the social sphere. And masses of people are more than happy to go along with it.

It is not that gay marriage itself is wrecking traditional marriage; it is that traditional marriage was already attacked and the gays jumped on this deterioration to make the situation worse, to drive their wedge in.


9 posted on 06/24/2012 5:40:08 AM PDT by scottjewell (homosexual agenda,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

having been married since 1973, I can attest to the sanctity of the institution.


10 posted on 06/24/2012 5:43:16 AM PDT by brivette
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau

Not broke, but losing lots & lots of money:

As Ford Motors will tell you, siding with radical homosexuals has its price. And in J.C. Penney’s case, the cost is about $163 million. According to the Wall Street Journal, J.C. Penney’s stock “has lost more than a third of its value since a disastrous earnings report in mid-May, when Penney’s posted a $163 million loss and said sales fell 20% in the first three months of its fiscal year.” CEO Ron Johnson also admitted that Father’s Day sales were a bust. “Penney’s shares fell 8.8% Tuesday to their lowest level in a year, [and] store traffic was down 10%.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2898007/posts


11 posted on 06/24/2012 5:45:49 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: brivette

Yes indeed, I can as well.

But there can be no doubt that there has been a massive deterioration in the general society regarding this sanctity. Without that, same sex marriage would never have been able to even get its foot in the door. And if finally entrenched, will destroy any hope of reversing the tide.


12 posted on 06/24/2012 5:47:25 AM PDT by scottjewell (homosexual agenda,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell
"David Handschuh / Pool / Getty Images file"

Getty Images allow none of their images to posted to Free Republic.
Please make note of it.

13 posted on 06/24/2012 5:51:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MissMagnolia

“2% or less of the population should not be the tail wagging the dog. The 2% are agile, hostile & mobile .... and overplaying their hand .”

Well, well said.


14 posted on 06/24/2012 5:52:29 AM PDT by scottjewell (homosexual agenda,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Admin Moderator

Ah, I see. Sorry. And yes, duly noted.


15 posted on 06/24/2012 5:53:22 AM PDT by scottjewell (homosexual agenda,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

Before this thread goes much further, can someone - anyone - show me where "Marriage" is in the Constitution?

Until the King of England started taxing marriage in the 1500's (or 1600's...) governments of the world had ZERO role in the institution until the King of England decided to tax marriages in order to enrich himself.

There is no term 'marriage' in the Constitution or Bill of Rights because it is a RELIGIOUS institution. Freedom of Religion *is* protected by the United States Constitution. That freedom includes freedom from Government intervention into the Church.

Now, the entire discussion around marriage in a context of the "government's role" or "government definition" is completely wrong and people need to stop falling for it.

Rather, marriage should be defended as a RELIGIOUS institution, and as such is exempt from government meddling into it under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

That removes the issue from state AND federal manipulation of the issue and would force the United States Supreme Court to rule the Government has no role in the "definition of marriage."

The definition of marriage already exists in the Religious context.

Game, set, match.

Why don't other's see this as clearly?! Stop asking the Government to define marriage and tell them to stop it, and get out of the marriage "business" altogether! It is after all a revenue generating SCHEME for the Government!

Enough!

16 posted on 06/24/2012 6:02:08 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: usconservative

Yes, I become livid when I hear talk of “the constitutional right to marry a person of one’s own choosing” and “the right to marry is a fundamental civil right” - and all of this is said more than you would care to think.

Yes, government could well get out of the marriage business, and that is a libertarian view. However, it was after all government being in the marriage business which made it a solemn affair even for those who were not so religious.

But of course as you assert, is has now opened the door for redefinition. And with amendments coming up in several states in the November elections, you must realize this is a political reality in the U.S. currently.


17 posted on 06/24/2012 6:06:31 AM PDT by scottjewell (homosexual agenda,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

I’ve come to the conclusion that only the complete collapse of Western civilization (something not nearly as unthinkable as it was a decade ago) will stop this and many other evils being visited upon us.

Absent that, the war is indeed over.

Sure, battles will be fought on a state by state basis for a long time, but the polling on the issue has showed a steady increase in acceptance for sexual deviancy as the basis for marriage for decades.

The next rampart to fall will be the first State election in which a majority either approves of homo marriage or votes down a measure to stop it, and it won’t be long in coming. It would likely have happened in California in ‘08 were it not for the large increase in black voters going to the polls to vote 0bozo in. Talk about a pyrric victory..

The time to stop it was decades ago when radical leftists effectively gained control of almost all public educational institutions. Seems to me that enough damage has been done now that only social upheaval on a very large scale might possibly wake the people (at least the surviving people..) up.


18 posted on 06/24/2012 6:10:18 AM PDT by gzzimlich
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: MissMagnolia

... According to the Wall Street Journal,J.C. Penney’s stock “has lost more than a third of its value since a disastrous earnings report in mid-May,when Penney’s posted a $163 million loss and said sales fell 20% in the first three months of its fiscal year.”...

I love good news on Sunday morning.


19 posted on 06/24/2012 6:26:16 AM PDT by moovova
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: gzzimlich

I’ve come to the conclusion that only the complete collapse of Western civilization (something not nearly as unthinkable as it was a decade ago) will stop this and many other evils being visited upon us.

Absent that, the war is indeed over. [. . . ]The time to stop it was decades ago when radical leftists effectively gained control of almost all public educational institutions. Seems to me that enough damage has been done now that only social upheaval on a very large scale might possibly wake the people (at least the surviving people..) up.”_________________

I have reached similar conclusions. The decadence is simply too deeply-rooted, and the new lifestyles too entrenched (going back to the ‘60s) for anything short of massive upheaval to bring in a new order (or a return to a former state of order).

Of course, those who engineered this “counter culture -become-main stream culture” knew that this would be the case.


20 posted on 06/24/2012 6:34:41 AM PDT by scottjewell (homosexual agenda,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson