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To: George Varnum

I agree with what you said with one exception. I don’t think the frames were at all susceptible to cracking or being stressed.

When I was a kid in the 50s and 60s, Astras were among the cheapest pistols available. I recall ordering a 600 with a holster and spare mag for $36. I got a 400 and box of ammo for $20. Both were in nice shape.

One 400 I had was probably the best finished handgun I have ever seen. It had a blue finish which I have hardly ever seen. It was a beautiful light blue, not black like most.

Those Astras just looked cool to me and they had a tendency to be more accurate than most. I think because of the fixed barrel.

They could be partially field stripped very rapidly by retracting the slide, turning the barrel out of it’s lugs then releasing the slide to move right off the frame. Of course separating the barrel, spring and slide from each other required pushing in on that little sleeve in the bushing with the end of the magazine. Still not really that hard to do.


64 posted on 06/25/2012 7:06:31 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
When I was a kid in the 50s and 60s, Astras were among the cheapest pistols available. I recall ordering a 600 with a holster and spare mag for $36. I got a 400 and box of ammo for $20. Both were in nice shape.

One 400 I had was probably the best finished handgun I have ever seen. It had a blue finish which I have hardly ever seen. It was a beautiful light blue, not black like most.

Those Astras just looked cool to me and they had a tendency to be more accurate than most. I think because of the fixed barrel.

I started getting the things around 1960 when they were $12-$15 when ordered in quantity. FN 9mm ball ammo ["Oxyless"] ran about $40/1000, of which about 1 round in 10 to 1 in 3 would be duds, depending on the batch. I sold off the rattiest of the guns to my pals, and included *free* ammo with the warning that there were duds in it, and that I'd cheerfully replace any rounds that failed to fire on a straight exchange basis. And pretty soon, I had a couple of thousand rounds of the duds, from which I pulled the bullets and salvaged the powder and thereby got my start in handloading. For serious purposes, I used surplus German *black ball* with a compressed iron bullet [meant for the MP40 machinepistol] or Finnish Lapua ball, which was supurb.

The Astra 400/600 pistols were known as *water pistols* in our circles due to their shape, but the triggers were generally pretty good. The sights were not, but I eventually got pretty fair at hitting hand-tossed 2x2x2 pine blocks pitched in the air, one at a time at first, then a pair, then four or five. I never quite managed a full magazine's worth, as I found other toys worth experimenting with.

Finding a good holster for one was a problem, though I eventually came up with a Triple-K beltslide rig meant for a Colt Commander that worked okay. And for fun I had a really ugly quickdraw rig made out of a pieve of slotted 3/4-inch inside diameter auto radiator hose, hung from a leather belt loop. Those Astras came out of that piece of rubber hose right quick, and nice and quietly.

Last one I saw had a pricetag of over $300 on it. It brought back some swell memories, but I passed on it.


66 posted on 06/25/2012 10:19:07 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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