Posted on 06/26/2012 10:22:50 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
Mitt Romney has at least one demographic group squarely in his corner headed into November: Mormons.
Some 77 percent of Utah Mormons said they are "very excited" or "somewhat excited" that Romney — himself a practicing member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — clinched the Republican nomination. And nearly as many say his primary victory is a positive development for the Mormon Church, according to a poll released Monday by Key Research and Brigham Young University’s Center for the Study of Elections and Democracy.
According to the Religion News Service, studies show that Utah Mormons generally hold the same political opinions as practitioners in other states.But many in the Church are concerned the media will portray their faith unfairly, and an equal amount — 68 percent — say Romney's nomination will bring at least some bad publicity for Mormonism.
A Gallup poll released earlier in the month showed that registered Mormon voters overwhelmingly favored Romney. Some 84 percent of Mormons surveyed in that poll said they would vote for Romney, versus just 13 percent for President Obama. That's a marked improvement over Republicans' already dominant numbers among Mormon voters; in 2008, John McCain pulled 75 percent of the Mormon vote, versus 19 percent for Obama.
But a separate Gallup poll released last week found that Romney's faith could keep some voters at home. According to the survey, 18 percent of respondents said they would not vote for a Mormon.
What the hell (pun intended) does that have to do with anything? Are you voting for a candidate based upon the “commands of Christ,” or are you voting for a candidate based upon whether he (or she) wants to raise your taxes, etc.?
Another one who thinks God can be put into a box all week and taken out for an hour on Sunday....
I mean, seriously . . . people are religiously-astute enough here to quote me Scripture. How about the Federalist Papers?
And yet another who fails to understand that the Constitution of the US does not preclude me from refusing to vote for a candidate because I see his faith as heresy.
Also, the Constitution of the US does not preclude me refusing to vote for a candidate who has taken THIS oath in a mormon temple:
Which vow would come first to Romney? The oath to the mormon church or the oath of office?
No, that's not what I said, at all. I simply asked you to embrace your inner bigot.
In fact, I need you to reread my comment #28 before you continue to put words in my mouth. It’s gets annoying, after a time.
Excellent question. I thought you’d never get there. As another has pointed out to you, the Christian does not compartmentalize their faith, such that it must be excluded from public acts. If I vote, I vote as one whose entire life is under the rule of Christ. He has instructed us, both in his own words, and through the apostles, that we are not to lift a finger in aid of one who brings a doctrine against the only God and his Christ, that if we do so, we become a partaker in his evil.
I desperately wanted to vote GOP this November. But if, as appears certain, the party nominates Romney, I will be precluded from voting for him out of respect to the command of Christ.
But I understand your difficulty in understanding people like me. You have declared yourself a religious compartmentalist. I and many others here are not. It is a profound difference. We only ask that you try to understand, our objection to Romney is not personal, and not irrational. We simply choose to obey Christ in this matter.
What I find disturbing, however, is that even though the Founders allowed for people to vote (and freely express their religious beliefs by doing so), they most assuredly did not place a religious requirement upon those who seek office. It's that simple.
Who in the world claimed you’re precluded from voting for a Mormon? You know that isn’t the case.
The issue being discussed is whether a Christian can understandably decline to vote for a Mormon.
What YOU said I copied in italics. What I said was this: "And yet another who fails to understand that the Constitution of the US does not preclude me from refusing to vote for a candidate because I see his faith as heresy."
You can throw "bigot" around until you are blue in the face but bigotry is 52,000 mormon missionaries daily going into the world and proclaiming to Christians that the Christian faith is false and the only way to salvation is to be baptized and confirmed as mormon and taking part in arcane rituals in a mormon temple. Bigotry is mormonism claiming that the gospel providing the faith practiced for thousands of years by Christians was false and that God "took it away and replaced it with the "restored" gospel" found only in the fictional pages written by a false prophet in the 1830s.
BIGOTRY as will be seen by the whole world in the next few months in US media, was the refusal of the mormon church to allow black men to access the same so-called "blessings" of mormonism from the 1830s until 1978, (when Mitt Romney was a grown man), due to the color of their skin and to refuse to this day the blessings afforded to mormon men to mormon women.
Go ahead, throw the word "bigot" around as though mormonism were innocent of these acts against others.
AND, the Founders DID NOT place a restriction upon voters considering religion in their choice of whom to cast a vote for. This is a straw man that has been burnt to a cinder numerous times on the Religioon Forum.
Are you mad? Looks like you are mad.
Ma’am, if you believe it’s a sin to vote for somebody because his religious faith is one you believe is incorrect, or because he prefers chocolate ice cream to vanilla, you owe nobody an apology or explanation. Your vote is private.
crazy as a foxx (duck’n & runn’n)
No, it is this simple: the founders put no religious requirement for running for office BY THE GOVERNMENT - this did not EVER apply to individuals!
Even more simple:
no religion test for RUNNING for office
individuals are free to use whatever they want to choose a candidate - even religion
I don’t know why you addressed that comment to me. That question has been asked and answered. (At least twice).
Oh my, so now you are arguing with a figment of your imagination. I may have to leave this thread to the two of you.
My thread is being highjacked with provocative posts that have missed their mark so I provide some facts.
My state of mind is fine. Attempts to get under my skin have been made often. Yours is amateurish. You can probably find entertainment on another thread.
Did you even read what you wrote in your post #47?
That’s what I was responding to.
:-)
I merely asked why you felt that the GOP-E should feel the need to kowtow to religious bigots that, according to you, represent 18%.
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