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Why Iran Should Get the Bomb
Foreign Affairs ^ | July/August 2012 | Kenneth N. Waltz

Posted on 06/27/2012 11:11:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway
Waltz is Emeritus Professor of Political Science at UC Berkeley.

He is a leading proponent of the academic theory of "structural realism" in international relations, and accordingly, highly gifted in the art of rectal-cranial infarction.

22 posted on 06/27/2012 11:54:28 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I think he is just faking a “Biden”.

“...one most likely to restore stability...”
Even the Stalinist traitors of the 1930s and 1940s didn’t use that excuse for stealing the secrets for the Atomic Bomb, though they used a similar excuse for invading and dividing up Poland in 1939. It also worked for the Stalinist sympathizers of the late 1940s, ‘50s and up to date as to why the Soviets needed to conquer eastern Europe, Korea, China and the World.


23 posted on 06/27/2012 11:55:13 AM PDT by BilLies (330,000 northern Union Whites died 1861-65 so that Obama could have Affirmative Action)
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To: SampleMan
The point of this idiot is that if you give a homicidal psychopath the an atomic bomb, that will make them less likely to do something homicidal.

I recently made the argument like this to a liberal friend.

"Why don't you let your 5 year old play with matches? He knows not to set anything on fire with them, right?"

"Well in the case of Iran with Nuclear Weapons, they are building weapons that are designed to anihilate entire cities. They have repeatedly stated that they intend to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. This "child" nation is not planning to just play with matches, they intend to set something on fire, which is what the match is designed to do."

24 posted on 06/27/2012 12:01:48 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Army Air Corps

He dares to compare Israel having nukes to the IRI with nukes?

What color is the sun in his world?


25 posted on 06/27/2012 12:02:25 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: null and void
So I should have a gun to insure peace, right?

That depends on who you are and what your intentions are. If you are a murdurous thug with a healthy rap sheet, I doubt your having a gun will bring about any peace. If you are a law abiding citizens looking out for the best defense of yourself and your family, I think it could ensure some personal peace.

Your premise is flawed however. For your hypothetical gun to be an effective peace maker, you would have to let all would be criminals that you have the gun and intend to use it with lethal intentions should you be attacked. Then, your gun could serve the purpose or intent of insuring peace.

The state may help you by making it legal for all good citizens to have and use weapons in self defense. In this way, guns can and do insure peace by deterence.

26 posted on 06/27/2012 12:09:16 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Darksheare
Darksheare ~ But Nully, you’re not a homicidal psychopath that daily preaches from the rooftops about martyring your friends and neighbors in the hopes of forcing some bigger psychopath to appear and destroy the world.

That's what you know think...

SampleMan ~ The equation does not change whether the weapon is a gun or an atomic bomb.

Precisely. According to Mr. Waltz, it doesn't matter if I'm nutz, if my Model Citizen neighbor has I gun, I need one to insure neighborhood stability.

27 posted on 06/27/2012 12:19:43 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1254 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Tenacious 1
That depends on who you are and what your intentions are. If you are a murdurous thug with a healthy rap sheet, I doubt your having a gun will bring about any peace.

But but but but, that's the author's whole premise!

28 posted on 06/27/2012 12:23:01 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1254 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: nickcarraway

This writer shows signs of a rectal cranial inversion, I believe.


29 posted on 06/27/2012 12:32:34 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I think the the school of thought is called “defensive realism”. Nuclear weapons are “defensive” weapons that deter attack. And a stable balance of power is the guarantee of peace.

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When all sides exhibit rationality, mutually assured destruction is indeed a fine guarantee of peace.

Does that sound like Iran to you? Rational, that is?


30 posted on 06/27/2012 1:09:24 PM PDT by dmz
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To: nickcarraway

I think we should give the bomb to Iran. In fact, I believe we should give them a bunch of bombs. Dropped from very high and carpet bomb them into the stone age.


31 posted on 06/27/2012 1:10:09 PM PDT by History Repeats (If Obama had a son, he'd have his picture hanging on the wall of the Post office wanted board.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yes, after the Iranians kill half the population of Israel with nukes, and Israeli counter-attacks kill half the population of Iran, the survivors will join hands and sing “Kumbaya.”


32 posted on 06/27/2012 1:17:56 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

But will they be singing in Yiddish or Farsi?


33 posted on 06/27/2012 1:21:51 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: nickcarraway

So with this logic, all criminals should be given guns to balance the power with police.


34 posted on 06/27/2012 1:37:31 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: nickcarraway

35 posted on 06/27/2012 1:42:39 PM PDT by PT57A
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To: American in Israel
So with this logic, all criminals should be given guns to balance the power with police.

Bravo!

36 posted on 06/27/2012 1:50:01 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: null and void

Reminds me, I need a trebuchet.


37 posted on 06/27/2012 2:33:59 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare; Lakeshark

I think sharky has a spare.


38 posted on 06/27/2012 2:43:38 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1254 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Darksheare; Servant of the 9

Or was that Swervie?


39 posted on 06/27/2012 2:45:32 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1254 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: Darksheare
Need a trebuchet? Get your trebuchets right here!
40 posted on 06/27/2012 2:45:43 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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