Posted on 06/28/2012 11:50:49 AM PDT by nerdgirl
Chief Justice John G. Roberts is an evil genius. The ruling to uphold the Affordable Care Act is, on its face, a win for President Obama both because the media are saying it is and because it is the signature piece of legislation of his first term. But it may turn out to be a pyrrhic victory, as Roberts accomplished numerous, subtle victories for conservative Republicans.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/john-roberts-evil-genius-article-1.1103982#ixzz1z7DsG4zU
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I think it was a great play. Now the Republicans bring it up for a repeal vote with a majority. Dems that vote against and are in contested districts are gone.
Senate will have to get the bill. Harry Reid cannot table it for fear he will lose the senate. He will have to bring it up since 25 of his senators are up for reelection and they will have to vote for cloture. Question is will the republicans get 19 votes to bring it up for a vote?
Let’s say they do. What is Obama going to do? Veto it?
I think the play was good politically, but constitutionally it sucks.
That’s probably very good advice. Hopefully, we won’t have to wait because the thing will be repealed. I haven’t yet read the decision, but I’m having a tough time seeing the poison pill from the coverage I’ve seen.
Thank you, right on! We lost and lost big. The first step is to admit it there is a problem before you can try to fix it.
If your suspicions are correct, and your understanding of today’s events is correct, then things are pretty bad indeed. But hold open the possibility that something very good took place today that will become apparent in the coming days and weeks. Thanks.
From now on, he shall be known as “The Dread Pirate Roberts” - the man who hijacked the Constitution.
Response: No.
Comment: " In declining states the leadership intuitively chooses the most harmful course of action."-A Great Historian 1888
There is no doubt America is in decline, economically, politically, culturally, demographically and morally.
Roberts and the rest of the court are part of the leadership of a declining state.
Therefore the court chose to uphold a harmful course of action.
Yes, I get it. I am a lawyer and there are plenty of situations where the law does not allow one to do indirectly what cannot be done directly. I am perplexed by Roberts’ conclusion that Congress doesn’t have the power to force people to buy insurance but has the power to tax them if they don’t.
The article raises the point that Roberts’ actions may lose the battle but win the war, in which case we may come to forgive him in time.
Boy has FR become a community of haters or what? Heated discussion is a fine thing, but it seems like a lot of folks around here prefer to just sling mud, and turn on their own at a moment’s notice.
In a conscious effort to maintain some clarity, I have not turned on the TV today. There’s not one single pundit or reporter than has any inkling of wisdom or understanding. If there’s a poison pill, conservatives will find it in the next few days and weeks.
I suppose, also, SCOTUS can say that something is NOT a tax which Congress has passed as being a tax. Congress becomes an afterthought between this and the powers Obama has been assuming unto himself regardless of what Congress has voted. The board is being cleared piece by piece until all the power resides in one branch.
Well then, I hope he suffers and dies in a subtle way where no one sees and no one cheers.
The US did go on to win that war...
Exactly...I'm not playing anymore.
sounds like the system we already have: http://www.johnreilly.info/26Feb12.htm
It's not his job to consider the interests of the country. His only job is to enforce the Constitution. Unfortunately, he got it wrong.
Don’t forget that tares have been sown here at FR too. Don’t think of it as a unified community. It’s more of town square where anyone can post messages.
Also, please resist depression with the same authority you can refuse any temptation. Thanks.
Yes, I need some time to absorb this but what has seeped in so far has received a bad reaction from me.
We are victims these days of the Stockdale Paradox. Hope, anticipation that our fears and enemies will be vanquished only to have the rug jerked out from under us again. Belief in the “system” does that to you. The “system” does not give a damn for you or I.
In a business book by James C. Collins called Good to Great, Collins writes about a conversation he had with Stockdale regarding his coping strategy during his period in the Vietnamese POW camp.
“I never lost faith in the end of the story, I never doubted not only that I would get out, but also that I would prevail in the end and turn the experience into the defining event of my life, which, in retrospect, I would not trade.”
When Collins asked who didn’t make it out of Vietnam, Stockdale replied:
“Oh, that’s easy, the optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, ‘We’re going to be out by Christmas.’ And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they’d say, ‘We’re going to be out by Easter.’ And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart.”
Stockdale then added:
“This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.”
Witnessing this philosophy of duality, Collins went on to describe it as the Stockdale Paradox.
I am cautiously optimistic that we're going to have a good November and Obamacare will eventually be repealed. It's the precedent of this opinion that's the real concern to me.
I think he didn’t do so, because of the fact that he was in fact bowing to political pressure, and for perhaps this and other reasons, he neglected to do the courageous thing. I don’t however buy into the fact that he did this happily or gleefully - despite the fact that sitting here today I do wish Bush had found a nominee more like Scalia.
They can still make you buy anything by taxing you prohibitively - there is no genius here, only evil.
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