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Why Roberts Did It
National Review Online ^ | 28 June 2012 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 06/28/2012 1:47:53 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss

It’s the judiciary’s Nixon-to-China: Chief Justice John Roberts joins the liberal wing of the Supreme Court and upholds the constitutionality of Obamacare. How? By pulling off one of the great constitutional finesses of all time. He managed to uphold the central conservative argument against Obamacare, while at the same time finding a narrow definitional dodge to uphold the law — and thus prevented the Court from being seen as having overturned, presumably on political grounds, the signature legislation of this administration.

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Whatever one thinks of the substance of Bush v. Gore, it did affect the reputation of the Court. Roberts seems determined that there be no recurrence with Obamacare. Hence his straining in his Obamacare ruling to avoid a similar result — a 5–4 decision split along ideological lines that might be perceived as partisan and political.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: johnroberts; krauthammer; obamacare; obamacaretax; scotus
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To: Meet the New Boss

Really amazing that I never hear of the SCOTUS being partisan when it overturns laws conservatives like. I think it’s a safe bet that DOMA will be overturned but I will damn surprised if the word “partisan” comes up when the MSM goes crazy. Heads I win tales you lose situation.


41 posted on 06/28/2012 2:24:10 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Meet the New Boss

Legislating from the bench is not finesse.

If SCOTUS wanted to give Congress direction as to how to pass a version of the law they would regard as Constitutional, they should have struck this version down, and said rewrite it and instead of calling it a penalty, call it a tax.

Instead they have to ignore the fact the writers of the legislation argued to SCOTUS it WAS NOT A TAX, ignoring lawmakers’ intent, and rewriting it for them. They do not have the power to rewrite legislation. It should have been sent back to Congress to re-do.


42 posted on 06/28/2012 2:24:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tzar
What are they taxing? Is it a head tax where you are exempted only if you have insurance?

The dissent did chide the majority for the breezy way they addressed this question, but they did not go so far as to say that they believed the tax was unconstitutional as a non-apportioned head tax.

Apparently they were in such a hurry to get the decision out the door they didn't deliberate sufficiently on this question.

43 posted on 06/28/2012 2:25:24 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: kearnyirish2

If Clinton decided how many children one can have, how are the Hispanics having so many?


44 posted on 06/28/2012 2:26:03 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Congress has the authority to repeal its own laws. Think Prohibition. That was a Constitutional Amendment reversal. If they can do that, they can repeal a lower law.

If they repeal it there’s no basis to say they can’t repeal a law they passed prior.


45 posted on 06/28/2012 2:27:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

If I was Ford Motor Company I would be concerned with the Congress taxing every non-GMC vehicle owner since the gubmint owns GM.

What is the difference between that and Obamacare where now a person can be taxed until they submit to buy gubmint health insurance...


46 posted on 06/28/2012 2:27:09 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: bcsco

You’re right on Krauthammer’s take on Robert’s decision. But I’m not sure you’re right on Romney. He’s already come out and said he would ask for revocation if elected. If he goes back on that, he nullifies his most important campaign promise. Even for Romney, I have trouble seeing that happen.

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I’ve seen thousands of threads that list the similarities between Obamacare and Romneycare. Sure, Mittens would revoke Obama’s forced mandates.

Only to replace them with more of the SOS.


47 posted on 06/28/2012 2:27:26 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: kearnyirish2

Congress has the authority to repeal its own laws. Think Prohibition. That was a Constitutional Amendment reversal. If they can do that, they can repeal a lower law.

If they repeal it there’s no basis to say they can’t repeal a law they passed prior.

Our system of laws is NOT the Medes and Persians, where once a law is on the books, it can’t be changed. Laws are modified and sections are taken away and replaced with NOTHING equivalent all the time.


48 posted on 06/28/2012 2:28:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: bcsco; Responsibility2nd
But I’m not sure you’re right on Romney. He’s already come out and said he would ask for revocation if elected. If he goes back on that, he nullifies his most important campaign promise

You're hilarious.

It's like telling somebody that Gumby won't bend anymore.

(Oh well, At least you inspired a new tagline)

49 posted on 06/28/2012 2:28:41 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
So Roberts made Marxism the law of the land, because he wanted to seem “fair.”

Why not? He rendered the 10th amendment null and void just 2 says earlier.

Oh good, now we have no reason to respect congress, the executive, and now the courts. Nothing left of our formerly great country.

50 posted on 06/28/2012 2:29:48 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Responsibility2nd
Obamacare is now essentially upheld. There’s only one way it can be overturned. The same way it was passed — elect a new president and a new Congress.

Well to overcome filibusters in the Senate we'd need 60 Senators willing to vote to repeal. Right now we have 47, right.

Anyone think we can get to 60? Anyone? Mr. Bueller?

OK, I didn't think so. Anyone think Mitch McConnel with end the filibuster rule? Anyone??

OK. So, it's going to go into full force in the 2012 2014 session after which it will be far too ingrained to end.

Game, Set, Match to the winner: Obamacare!

51 posted on 06/28/2012 2:31:12 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Terry Mross

“If Clinton decided how many children one can have, how are the Hispanics having so many?”

I said he limited how many children “obama’s people” could have; the welfare state of 1996 was targeted (because whites started breeding in the same manner, and couldn’t be denied freebies based on color). Nobody now has the political will to stop the breeding of the Bronze Horde, though their growth is also attributed to the open border. They aren’t just having slightly more children, they are importing brand-new welfare recipients by the MINUTE.


52 posted on 06/28/2012 2:32:00 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Uncle Chip

Then what do we need the USSC for???

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You ask a damn good question. After today - I’m beginning to think differently on the need for these idiots.


53 posted on 06/28/2012 2:32:23 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: straps

“2. ERs for years have had to eat people with no insurance now even the illegals have to pay for insurance.”

Actually, the illegals are specifically exempted in the law from the requirement to pay for insurance.

There was a thread on this earlier:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2900423/posts


54 posted on 06/28/2012 2:32:36 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

Roberts decision makes no sense. In the first part of it, he says the penalty is not a tax. In part four (?) he construes it to be a tax. There’s no need to interpret what the statute means, because the clear language indicates it’s a penalty. Furthermore, the legislative history indicates it is a penalty, and is not intended to be a tax.

If the majority had held in the first party that it was, in fact, a tax, there would be nothing further to decide, because under the Anti-Injunction Act, the NFIB would have no standing to bring the suit.


55 posted on 06/28/2012 2:34:47 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I see; I’m not holding my breath, though. Now we get to provide free healthcare (on top of free breakfasts in public schools) to every freeloader, from anywhere around the world, who can make it across the border.

Until taxpayers start breeding again they can expect more of the same.


56 posted on 06/28/2012 2:35:30 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

Like I’ve said on other posts, lots of the folks south of the border think this takes place immediately. SO HERE THEY COME! Remember the woman who said she never had to worry about her mortgage again? “I’m goin’ to Texas and I’ll never have to worry about healthcare again.” Unfortunately, they’re right this time.


57 posted on 06/28/2012 2:36:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

If I was Ford Motor Company I would be concerned with the Congress taxing every non-GMC vehicle owner since the gubmint owns GM.

What is the difference between that and Obamacare where now a person can be taxed until they submit to buy gubmint health insurance...


58 posted on 06/28/2012 2:36:36 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: popdonnelly

Sorry, “in the first part”.


59 posted on 06/28/2012 2:37:11 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Re: So Roberts made Marxism the law of the land, because he wanted to seem “fair.

So long Constitutional Republic, hello marxcist dictatorship


60 posted on 06/28/2012 2:38:17 PM PDT by jesseam
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